Yeah, I agree - Steve is a stand up guy. I think there is a reason they call the US Midwest, the Heartland. The coasts are all about edge and growth, but would not be so if the center was not all about harmony and love, supporting us "fruits and nuts".
--- In [email protected], "seventhray27" <steve.sundur@...> wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], "Ann" <awoelflebater@> wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], Share Long <sharelong60@> wrote: > > > > > > Steve has also recently been a generous supporter of yours. Of course > > > in that case there was no mention of knights on white horses, lack of > > > intelligence, etc. > > > > I like Steve, and have always liked him. He is generous and one of the more > > humble of the contributors here. I don't always agree with him but I admire > > the part of him that can laugh at himself, admit error and apologize. As to > > being a "generous supporter" of mine I am not sure what you are speaking > > about but I have always found him to carry an intention to be fair and he > > comes across as good natured. > > Thank you for those kind words. > > > I am not sure what you mean by your second sentence. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: Ann <awoelflebater@> > > > To: [email protected] > > > Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2013 9:02 AM > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Asstral [was Re: The Use of the Second > > > Attention, Pros and Cons] > > > > > > > > >  > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], Share Long wrote: > > > > > > > > So Judy, any criticisms for Ravi's over the top post below?à> > > > Right.àI thought not.àEven though it was obviously way over the > > > > top.àAnd it is the one that prompted Steve to respond to Ravi.à> > > > But right, focus on Steve and me and our alleged wrong doings.à> > > > Dredge up the past if need be.àBut definitely ignore Ravi's extreme > > > > over reaction.àSo much for friend's being able to speak frankly > > > > with each other.à> > > > > > Each to our own opinion on Ravi's post. I found it rather humorous > > > because it was typical of his style and the playfulness in it felt less > > > than 'over the top' to me. But I have found that you don't have the most > > > active sense of humour, especially when something is directed at you. You > > > like to 'play' but only when it deflects or is a way for you to skirt > > > around things. Still, you do have your supporter in Steve so that is nice > > > for you. He is very staunch. > > > > > > > > > > > > Judy to Ravi in Mission > > > > Accomplished thread: > > > > > > > > Good enough, Ravi, thanks. We should all be able to > > > > speak frankly to those we care about. > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > > From: Ravi Chivukula > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 12:57 PM > > > > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Asstral [was Re: The Use of the Second > > > > Attention, Pros and Cons] > > > > > > > > > > > > à> > > > Not clear enough, hmm.. - OK - I'm working on a sign for my door > > > > > > > > 1) Leave your fucking platitudes at the doorstep > > > > 2) Leave your inauthentic bullshit at the doorstep > > > > 3) Leave your delusional fantasies at the doorstep > > > > > > > > Which one do you think is better my beloved Auntie Share? > > > > > > > > On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 9:26 AM, Share Long wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > >à> > > > >I shall go forth dearest Ravi but only if we can go hand in hand > > > > >smiley smile (-: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >________________________________ > > > > > From: Ravi Chivukula > > > > >To: [email protected] > > > > >Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 10:16 AM > > > > >Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Asstral [was Re: The Use of the Second > > > > >Attention, Pros and Cons] > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >à> > > > >"The celestial realm is NOT the upper astral according to them." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Oh dear Share - with the above statement the automated platitude > > > > >detector of FFL has recorded this as your 1 millionth platitude on > > > > >FFL. You are hereby declared to be the avatar of Mother Saraswati. You > > > > >no longer need to visit any healers, quantum light weavers - your > > > > >weaknesses have been reduced to naught in one fell swoop, you have > > > > >been totally healed - no longer you are one of the billions with > > > > >positives and negatives. Go forth and start your own cult O' Wise lady. > > > > > > > > > >On Tue, Feb 19, 2013 at 7:26 AM, Share Long wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>à> > > > >>Doc, I appreciate what you say about astral being a reflection of > > > > >>consciousness.àWant to add that 2 spiritual teachers I respect a > > > > >>lot say that there is a definite distinction between the celestial > > > > >>and astral realms.àThe celestial realm is NOT the upper astral > > > > >>according to them. > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >>________________________________ > > > > >> From: "doctordumbass@" > > > > >>To: [email protected] > > > > >>Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 9:05 AM > > > > >>Subject: [FairfieldLife] Asstral [was Re: The Use of the Second > > > > >>Attention, Pros and Cons] > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >>à> > > > >>Think of it this way - the astral world, meaning all of it, parallels > > > > >>our consciousness, like two thermometers, side by side, each reading > > > > >>the same thing. Astral is a higher vibration than physical. The sight > > > > >>one gets from practicing Patanjali's sutra, or by some other means > > > > >>like peyote (ick) or mescaline (ugh) or LSD (yuck), will bring you > > > > >>into that world, according to your level of consciousness at the > > > > >>time. > > > > >> > > > > >>Those that experience unpleasant entities are merely seeing the > > > > >>astral manifestation of their consciousness. Astral means the entire > > > > >>universe of subtle sight. Of course, once a person is familiar with > > > > >>the full scope of Being in the astral world, one goes wherever one > > > > >>wants to - Um, kinda like in "real" life. > > > > >> > > > > >>However, it is important to note what one sees with each exploration, > > > > >>most of which will take a matter of seconds, popping in and out. If > > > > >>the consciousness is clean, it will naturally be experiencing the > > > > >>Celestial world, or I suppose, "upper astral". Also, the dynamics are > > > > >>just like anything else - with more experience, one has greater > > > > >>discrimination, and freedom of motion. > > > > >> > > > > >>If the reverse is true, (and one's consciousness is full of > > > > >>"suspended solids" - lol), and one forces one's way into the astral, > > > > >>they will probably see and meet lower entities. Not necessarily > > > > >>demons and criminals, but tricksters and manipulators. This is what > > > > >>is commonly called "the astral world" (by dopes like Lenz), but is > > > > >>actually a subset, based on limited access. > > > > >> > > > > >>--- In [email protected], doctordumbass@ wrote: > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Freebie from Doc: > > > > >>> > > > > >>> This word "astral" that you and Fred use, could be called > > > > >>> "ass-tral" - lol, because those that focus on the astral world, vs. > > > > >>> Celestial, have a low consciousness. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Its like breaking into someone's basement, and really should be > > > > >>> avoided for all the trouble it causes. The horror movie makers seem > > > > >>> to profit, but that's about it. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> --- In [email protected], turquoiseb wrote: > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > --- In [email protected], Share Long wrote: > > > > >>> > > > > > > >>> > > Thanks for this. I've heard similar ideas from tantric > > > > >>> > > teacher David Deida. Also I'm thinking that pushing it > > > > >>> > > out opens one's aura to astral entities. True? > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > I doubt it. I would say, and I know that Rama did > > > > >>> > say, that the thing that most opens one up to astral > > > > >>> > entities is spending any time whatsoever thinking > > > > >>> > about astral entities. What you focus on you become. > > > > >>> (schnipp) > > > > >>> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
