Anyone can claim he or she is enlightened.  But can he or she fly?


--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson <mjackson74@...> wrote:
>
> An interesting quote, with the URL - 
> 
> Several Rajneesh sannyasins have written me claiming to be enlightened and I 
> hear reports that many Rajneesh disciples now make that claim.  One man 
> said that he was "the new Osho" and invited me to visit his Web page. 
> His page displayed a large heroic picture of himself, much 
> self-promotion, and an advertisement for prostitutes in Russia who he 
> claimed were practicing "Tantra."  So for him "enlightenment" and being 
> "the new Osho" literally means to be a pimp. 
> 
> Another man, who had never met Osho in person, seemed to claim that reading 
> Osho's books helped him get over his "mental illness" and now he was 
> "enlightened" himself.  He then forcefully instructed me to rewrite my 
> Web page to make it "less judgmental" and suggested that Osho's 
> hypocrisy was just a means to convey his enlightenment to others.  Well, he 
> certainly conveyed his hypocrisy to others!  One young woman, who 
> grew up on the Rajneesh Oregon commune, asked me how she could make 
> money out of teaching Osho's meditation techniques.  I replied that she 
> should go to an employment agency and get an honest job.  Meditation and 
> business do not mix and there are too many money hungry gurus out there 
> already. 
> 
> It shocks me to find 
> that many Osho disciples do not care about the crimes that were 
> committed and are not bothered by the lies and hypocrisy of their own 
> movement.  They don't seem to comprehend that as a result of the 
> germ warfare attack committed by Rajneesh sannyasins on a restaurant in 
> Oregon that meditation groups have gotten a very bad name around the 
> world. 
> 
>  The attitude 
> of many Osho sannyasins seems to be that as long as they get their 
> psychic kicks out of a cult that it does not matter who was hurt or how 
> unethical and disgraceful the behavior was.  In their minds everyone 
> else in the world was responsible for the Oregon debacle except them. As a 
> result of this careless attitude many Americans now feel that if a meditation 
> group starts an ashram nearby it is time to buy a gun and a 
> gas mask. 
> 
> The amount of 
> historical revisionism and propaganda put out by some Rajneesh disciples 
> rivals the efforts of Maoists during the 1960s and their state of mind 
> is similar.  If you want to believe in one perfect man, a Pope of 
> the universe, then anyone who criticizes that Pope is deemed a devil. 
> Thus all the subtleties of my essay are lost on these disciples and all 
> they claim to see on my Web page is "hate and anger."  Of course they do not 
> see the hate in themselves directed at anyone who does not share 
> their own narrow beliefs. 
> 
> http://www.enlightened-spirituality.org/rajneesh.html
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
>  From: seventhray27 <steve.sundur@...>
> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> Sent: Sunday, March 3, 2013 10:40 AM
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: To card - mUrdhajyothiShi
>  
> 
>   
> Hey Michael,
> Thanks for your reply. I skimmed in, and I thought it might contain something 
> new, but as far as I could tell, it was the usual history, which I 've read, 
> and I've also read the other side, which of course you would disregard. No 
> matter.
> And for what it's worth, I will tell you that in addition to Maharisi, I like 
> Frederick Lenz, aka Rama. I would have jumped ship for Rama if I had known 
> about him. I like Osho. I really, really, like Muktananda. I like 
> Vivekenanda. Do you know by the way, that one time Vivikenda made a mildly 
> disparaging remark against black people. Want to make sure you don't miss 
> that. Of course I like Ramakrishna. It was hinted that he might have had a 
> thing for young boys, and he did eat beef in a temple once, if I have the 
> story correct. I feel great devotion to Yogananda, and yes, he has had 
> accusations hurled against him. I don't know much about Ramana Maharishi. He 
> seems unscathed by any scandals. I am sure I am missing many in the like 
> column.
> I think your calling might be as a formal anticultist. You have the 
> bonifides, and I mean this seriously. You have traversed different paths, and 
> I think you can make a strong case of why these practices or traditions may 
> be cults, or at least have cult elements.
> But where at one time, you might have been able to separate out the positive 
> aspects of these teachings, you now seem one pointedly focussed on the 
> negatives, blowing them up to what I feel is an outsized proportion, and 
> holding, what I see as a pretty big grudge.
> And of course the bottom line, is how you feel you are doing in your personal 
> life. I hope well.
>  
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson <mjackson74@> wrote:
> >
> > Not surprised that you would like him
> > 
> > http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/04/21/before_he_was_o/
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ________________________________
> > From: seventhray27 steve.sundur@
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Sunday, March 3, 2013 9:46 AM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: To card - mUrdhajyothiShi
> > 
> > 
> >   
> > Shok, I really enjoyed this commentary.  Too bad you had to register to 
> > read more.  May do that at a later.  I always did like Osho.  And 
> > too bad he ran into so much turbulence.
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok no_reply@ wrote:
> >  
> > > Interesting commentary by Osho:
> > > http://www.osho.com/library/online-library-ecstasy-shiva-shakti-sahasrar-3d72e38d-899.aspx
> > > 
> > > When this lotus moves upward and blooms, it is said in yoga scriptures, 
> > > "It is as resplendent as ten million suns and ten million moons." One 
> > > moon and one sun meet in your being. That becomes the possibility of the 
> > > meeting of ten million suns and ten million moons. You have found the key 
> > > of the ultimate orgasm, where ten million moons meet ten million suns 
> > > â€" ten million females meet ten million males. You can think of the 
> > > ecstasy….
> > >
> >
>


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