Anyone can claim he or she is enlightened. But can he or she fly?
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson <mjackson74@...> wrote: > > An interesting quote, with the URL - > > Several Rajneesh sannyasins have written me claiming to be enlightened and I > hear reports that many Rajneesh disciples now make that claim. One man > said that he was "the new Osho" and invited me to visit his Web page. > His page displayed a large heroic picture of himself, much > self-promotion, and an advertisement for prostitutes in Russia who he > claimed were practicing "Tantra." So for him "enlightenment" and being > "the new Osho" literally means to be a pimp. > > Another man, who had never met Osho in person, seemed to claim that reading > Osho's books helped him get over his "mental illness" and now he was > "enlightened" himself. He then forcefully instructed me to rewrite my > Web page to make it "less judgmental" and suggested that Osho's > hypocrisy was just a means to convey his enlightenment to others. Well, he > certainly conveyed his hypocrisy to others! One young woman, who > grew up on the Rajneesh Oregon commune, asked me how she could make > money out of teaching Osho's meditation techniques. I replied that she > should go to an employment agency and get an honest job. Meditation and > business do not mix and there are too many money hungry gurus out there > already. > > It shocks me to find > that many Osho disciples do not care about the crimes that were > committed and are not bothered by the lies and hypocrisy of their own > movement. They don't seem to comprehend that as a result of the > germ warfare attack committed by Rajneesh sannyasins on a restaurant in > Oregon that meditation groups have gotten a very bad name around the > world. > >  The attitude > of many Osho sannyasins seems to be that as long as they get their > psychic kicks out of a cult that it does not matter who was hurt or how > unethical and disgraceful the behavior was. In their minds everyone > else in the world was responsible for the Oregon debacle except them. As a > result of this careless attitude many Americans now feel that if a meditation > group starts an ashram nearby it is time to buy a gun and a > gas mask. > > The amount of > historical revisionism and propaganda put out by some Rajneesh disciples > rivals the efforts of Maoists during the 1960s and their state of mind > is similar. If you want to believe in one perfect man, a Pope of > the universe, then anyone who criticizes that Pope is deemed a devil. > Thus all the subtleties of my essay are lost on these disciples and all > they claim to see on my Web page is "hate and anger." Of course they do not > see the hate in themselves directed at anyone who does not share > their own narrow beliefs. > > http://www.enlightened-spirituality.org/rajneesh.html > > > > ________________________________ > From: seventhray27 <steve.sundur@...> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Sunday, March 3, 2013 10:40 AM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: To card - mUrdhajyothiShi > > >  > Hey Michael, > Thanks for your reply. I skimmed in, and I thought it might contain something > new, but as far as I could tell, it was the usual history, which I 've read, > and I've also read the other side, which of course you would disregard. No > matter. > And for what it's worth, I will tell you that in addition to Maharisi, I like > Frederick Lenz, aka Rama. I would have jumped ship for Rama if I had known > about him. I like Osho. I really, really, like Muktananda. I like > Vivekenanda. Do you know by the way, that one time Vivikenda made a mildly > disparaging remark against black people. Want to make sure you don't miss > that. Of course I like Ramakrishna. It was hinted that he might have had a > thing for young boys, and he did eat beef in a temple once, if I have the > story correct. I feel great devotion to Yogananda, and yes, he has had > accusations hurled against him. I don't know much about Ramana Maharishi. He > seems unscathed by any scandals. I am sure I am missing many in the like > column. > I think your calling might be as a formal anticultist. You have the > bonifides, and I mean this seriously. You have traversed different paths, and > I think you can make a strong case of why these practices or traditions may > be cults, or at least have cult elements. > But where at one time, you might have been able to separate out the positive > aspects of these teachings, you now seem one pointedly focussed on the > negatives, blowing them up to what I feel is an outsized proportion, and > holding, what I see as a pretty big grudge. > And of course the bottom line, is how you feel you are doing in your personal > life. I hope well. >  > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson <mjackson74@> wrote: > > > > Not surprised that you would like him > > > > http://sepiamutiny.com/blog/2011/04/21/before_he_was_o/ > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: seventhray27 steve.sundur@ > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Sunday, March 3, 2013 9:46 AM > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: To card - mUrdhajyothiShi > > > > > > à> > Shok, I really enjoyed this commentary.àToo bad you had to register to > > read more.àMay do that at a later.àI always did like Osho.àAnd > > too bad he ran into so much turbulence. > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, navashok no_reply@ wrote: > > à> > > Interesting commentary by Osho: > > > http://www.osho.com/library/online-library-ecstasy-shiva-shakti-sahasrar-3d72e38d-899.aspx > > > > > > When this lotus moves upward and blooms, it is said in yoga scriptures, > > > "It is as resplendent as ten million suns and ten million moons." One > > > moon and one sun meet in your being. That becomes the possibility of the > > > meeting of ten million suns and ten million moons. You have found the key > > > of the ultimate orgasm, where ten million moons meet ten million suns > > > ââ¬" ten million females meet ten million males. You can think of the > > > ecstasyââ¬Â¦. > > > > > >