Oh Ravi. As a highly born Indian, you of all people should know that enlightenment is impossible to discern by actions. Why? Because spiritual evolution is just that - evolution. So it isn't something like graduating from engineering school, and then being able to build a better widget. It moves. Enlightenment moves. So once the initial Liberation occurs, and we are established in Silence, it is a continuous process of growth, much more quickly than before.
Glad we got that out of the way. What is next? Oh yeah, how you cringe whenever I claim my enlightenment. Please get over it. It doesn't somehow magically revert my consciousness to that of one ignorant to his fundamental nature, to someone unenlightened, when you or Barry do not like me saying such a thing. Like Byron Katie says, "you can argue with reality, and you'll only be wrong 100% of the time." So yeah, no one EVER says they are enlightened, as if it is like uttering a curse. That is why I do it - It is both accurate, and causes severe cognizant dissonance in people like you. Oh goodie!! As for the rest of your opinion, yeah, I don't like you much now, either. I think that covers it, kiddo. --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Ravi Chivukula <chivukula.ravi@...> wrote: > > Oh Jimbo bimbo - lay it off dude. You come across as very pathetic in your > opposition to Curtis and Barry, you lack the conviction and strength of > character that Judy and Robin have. You come across as a TM fanatic, a TM > TB'er - not experience but some fantasy. Your reaction to that Girish's > post was disgusting to say the least. Barry's right - no one believes that > you are enlightened, I cringe whenever I see you say that, how fucking > clueless you are. You say enlightenment is very common - as if it is some > kind of achievement - you want to set the bar so low that you and Nabby can > just hop across - it doesn't work that way dude..LOL > > You can be very witty, intelligent - not sure why you need this deception - > I suppose I don't know what your emotional, psychological problems are that > you have to project yourself as enlightened. If you want to engage in some > TM induced fantasy enlightenment and platitude puke the BATGAP list is a > better place for you. I had read some of your posts on FFL from way back > and it was embarrassing, not to mention you pretending to be a woman and > creating some other id's to go after Barry. I just can't imagine how you > could get Barry's throwing shit on the fan routine to bother you so much - > really lame. You should perhaps read how Ann and or even RD respond to > Barry. > > On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 9:39 PM, doctordumbass@... < > no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > > > ** > > > > > > OK, they can stay here on FFL, but only because you said so, and Alex, > > deep apologies for this transgression. Thankfully, Easter is coming up, and > > I can flagellate myself properly for my sins. Sort of a Biblical *twofer*. > > > > But this has nothing to do with a spiritual pedigree, Zee-know. I was > > simply pointing out that Judy is far more familiar with the practice of TM, > > than Barry is, due to her additional twenty thousand plus experiences of it. > > > > I agree with your point about spiritual pedigree. That is why I suggested > > in an earlier post that Barry would have been better off by *not* beginning > > meditation in this lifetime - He isn't ready for it yet; no consistency or > > progress. > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" > > <anartaxius@> wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Yep, Judy has only done twenty four thousand and ninety sessions of TM > > since 1980, compared to Barry's ZERO. And Barry thinks this is impressive, > > and argues that 24 thousand meditations is not even worth comparing to his > > *complete lack of experience*. If anyone wants to know about pure hubris, > > this is a textbook example. > > > > > > > > Same with Curtis. Both these yokels feel themselves so superior to the > > rest of us on here, that they don't even have to practice TM to state their > > opinions on it. Gawd, I am embarrassed for both of them. > > > > > > > > Anyway, Curtis, per your exhaustive points on beliefs, this is where > > belief gets you. Both nowhere, and out of touch with reality. Enjoy, but > > please don't either of you try to get taken seriously around here, again. > > > > > > > > Some of us caught on long ago. Bullshitters like you two are not > > welcome on FFL. Please find Vaj (remember him?) and the three of you go > > have a pity party - K? > > > > > > Based on what Alex has said, unless you violate a few simple rules, > > everyone is welcome on FFL. That includes bullshitters and those we might > > consider saints. You also have to be careful about spiritual pedigree as it > > is called. How many meditations you have had or not have had may be no > > indication of how advanced or retarded you are spiritually. People younger > > than me, who have meditated less than me have awakened when I was still > > struggling with various issues. You never know if your next meditation, or > > just a walk in a gas station convenience mart is going to be the moment > > things open up. You don't know if the guy sifting through trash at a > > dumpster might be just a day away from some great spiritual insight. > > > > > > No one here has a complete lack of experience, but we do have > > differences. > > > > > > > > > >
