"Somehow".....it's an amazing thing, the soul....:)
>________________________________ > From: "doctordumb...@rocketmail.com" <doctordumb...@rocketmail.com> >To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com >Sent: Monday, March 25, 2013 8:30 PM >Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Michael Shermer rebuts Eben Alexander > > > >I have been in the presence of someone who regularly suffered intense >migraines, and someone else just after they had an NDE. The obvious difference >in both was the sense of peace and acceptance experienced during the NDE, >though superficial aspects of the experiences may sound similar. > >The assumption by Shermer is that the physical existence he experiences is >the constant, with any existence beyond that, unknowable. This is the view of >life, with death as its foundation. > >The alternative, that of life as its own foundation, is living the soul within >to be the reality, and watching as it takes on a temporary vehicle, currently >this body, aligns to it, and sets up a dynamic of Self awareness. > >Then after a hundred years or so, this body wears out, and the soul shimmers >out of it, and continues its journey of self knowledge, somehow. > >--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Yifu" <yifuxero@...> wrote: >> >> "Allegory of the Resurrection of Jesus Christ" by Pat Devonas: >> http://www.museumsyndicate.com/images/2/10741.jpg >> >> Dr. Michael Shermer attempts to rebut Dr. Eben Alexander's NDE as being >> genuinely "out of body" and supernatural. (Alexander is a neurosurgeon who >> had an NDE. Claims he traveled out of the body into supernatural dimensions >> in which he met deceased relatives, and listened to the OM.) >> ... >> Shermer in Scientific American, Apr 2013, 86, essentially uses a >> "similarity" argument coupled with Occam's Razor. Shermer states: "Migraine >> headaches also produce halluncinations, which Sacks [neurologist Oliver >> Sacks] himself has experienced as a longtime sufferer, including a >> 'shimmering light' that was 'dazzlingly bring'" etc, etc, clouds, blah, >> blah. >> Then Shermer goes on to make the comparison: "Compare Sack's experience >> with that of Alexander's trip to heaven, where he was "in a place of clouds. >> Big, puffy, pink-white ones that showed up sharply against the deep >> blue-black sky. Higher than the clouds - immeasurably higher - flocks of >> transparent, shimmering beings arced across the sky, leaving long, >> streamerlike lines behind them.". >> ... >> Then Shermer says "In any case, there is a reason they are called >> 'near'-death experiences: the people who have then are not actually dead". >> Also he inquires how Alexander could have a memory of the experiences. >> . >> Finally, Dr. Shermer states "To me, this evidence is proof of hallucination, >> not heaven." >> . >> [his arguments on the whole are similar to those of Sam Harris]. >> > > > > >
