Hi Steve, nice to talk with you too.  I've been thinking about what you write 
here.  Do you know, in the later chapters of the Gita, Krishna talks about 
situations that begin well and end badly and situations that begin badly and 
end well?  Of course He says it much more eloquently and thoroughly (-:

I think for me it has to do with being what I'll call hyper positive and having 
unrealistic expectations.  Then life is bound to boot me in the tukas so that I 
cease looking for happiness in the new romance, new job, new town, new car, new 
body (many women have unrealistic expectations with regards to losing weight), 

Are you saying that you think Robin's core enlightenment is still present?

Vertigo made a 24 hour drive by a few days ago and is gone again.  A friend 
explained that it did the same when her son had it.

What did you think of the 9 yr old boy philosopher?  


 From: seventhray27 <steve.sun...@yahoo.com>
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2013 8:25 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Career As Path (was Re: Majorca Spain to turq)

Hi Share,
Thanks for your comments.

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long <sharelong60@...> wrote:
> Steve, thank you for your insight. It helps me to understand a little more. 
> And your idea that the core of enlightenment was still there, very intriguing.
Well, my understanding has always been that enlightenment is something 
permanent.  Exception being perhaps the "Strange Case of RWC"  May have to put 
an asterisk on my understanding of the big "E"  there.
 I mean, even just the idea that enlightenment has a core.  Did you read what 
turq wrote about all this?  He has written of hubris and I'm still grappling 
with that one.
One feature of my personality, which I would call a flaw is that often my 
initial impression of something is often overly positive or enthusiastic.  
Having said that, as I mentioned before, I found myself very impressed with 
Fred Lenz's interviews.  I thought he presented ideas of spiritual growth and 
enlightnment in clearer terms than I had ever heard before.  
It is a pretty popular thing here to ridicule Fred, and many of Barry's 
recollections.  I really have nothing on which to base much of an opinion about 
Lenz, other than the little I've read about him.  
On the other hand, there seems to be plenty on instances of the so called 
"enlightened", backsliding in some ways.  Maybe the temptation of riches,  
power and sexual opportunties are just too much to resist.  I likely would have 
difficulty with all three if I found myself in such a position.  But I think I 
still maintain that "core" enlightenment remains.  It's just that it can get 
pretty dirty, and unseemly.
  I'd be interested in your thoughts on that.  Since I read what turq wrote 
and even what Judy wrote today about Robin, I've been wondering why genuine 
enlightenment doesn't have a built in protection against hubris.
But I'd like to think that I could avoid this pitfall.  Ego, or at least the 
negative attributes of ego is something of which I try to stay keenly aware.  
It has caused me so many problems that I'm careful not to give it any fuel.  
The negative attributes of ego, that is.
  I know my life certainly has that:  maybe a friend gets upset with me or IRS 
says I owe them money or I wake up one morning with vertigo.  Presto, any 
hubris that was creeping in is gone and I'm once again clearly part of flawed 
How is your vertigo?  So nice to talk to you.(-:


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