Thanks Emily, I read this a couple of times. I hope all goes well and you return soon. If you ever want to talk about anything from last year, well anything FFL that is, I'm willing to do so offline. Share
________________________________ From: Emily Reyn <emilymae.r...@yahoo.com> To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2013 1:26 AM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: parsing a la Descartes was HITLER'S VALENTINE Correction: IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO APOLOGIZE FOR SOMETHING (strike the TO ME) part. Ha ha Share - see, it isn't all about me either - I was typing too fast. Remember, I brought all of this tedium up again to make a point. I really am over it all. This is FFL after all - I don't have time to hold grudges in real life and on the internet. I am all about lessons learned though. Smiley face. >________________________________ > From: Emily Reyn <emilymae.r...@yahoo.com> >To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> >Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 9:01 PM >Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: parsing a la Descartes was HITLER'S VALENTINE > > >Dear Share, against my better judgment and because I am still here, I will >reply, but this will be it for now. I really do have to go - but I'll be back >to check in, not sure when, but I will. Thank you for your effort to >communicate with me. Of course you didn't understand my burn comment - I >didn't explain it at the time - that's why I explained it later. No need to >worry - you couldn't possibly have hurt my feelings by offering me the >suggestions of aloe vera and ghee. Yes, I'm sure there is a country song >about taxes - that's cute Share and I mean it. > > >My comment on you never *owe me* was said for two reasons that I didn't >explain - it didn't have anything to do with what *you* think. If you will >remember, *I* said, back during the timeframe where you were insisting that I >was part of your fantasized wts cult (last year, although we let all that go) >that *you owed me* an apology. Suffice it to say, I retract my request to you >from way back because I am fully over it. > > >Now, re: YOUR STATEMENT - "I make an apology when I think I might have hurt >someone's feelings." IT ISN'T ABOUT YOU SHARE, IT'S ABOUT THE OTHER PERSON >INFORMING YOU THAT YOU HAVE HURT THEIR FEELINGS - STOP GUESSING IN THE DARK! > > >SHARE, YOU HURT MY FEELINGS LAST YEAR WHEN YOU ACCUSED ME OF BEING IN A CULT. >REMEMBER THAT? I was most upset last year that you were dismissing me as an >individual by placing me in the inner circle of a cult with Robin as the >leader. It was rife with passive aggressive slams that I can't think for >myself, that I am part of a gang, that I am a follower, etc. Simply not a very >nice thing to do to another human being. I stated this to you numerous times. > If you had stated this to me as many times in as many ways with as much >emotion behind it as I did to you, I assure you, Share, I would have >apologized to you - I would have seen that it hurt you - whether your hurt >feelings accurately reflected my intentions or not (do you understand this >last phrase?). > > >YOU REFUSED TO APOLOGIZE TO ME, EVEN WHEN I TOLD YOU OVER AND OVER AND OVER >HOW YOU HAD HURT MY FEELINGS, AND WHY, AND BEGGED YOU TO WORK IT OUT WITH ME. >ALL PUBLICLY SHARE. I SPARED FFL NONE OF MY DRAMA OR PROCESS WITH YOU. >REMEMBER THAT? IT'S ALL ARCHIVED SOMEWHERE. I'M OVER IT, I ASSURE YOU. > > > >YOU HURT ROBIN'S FEELINGS (I'M GUESSING) WHEN YOU ACCUSED HIM OF PSYCHOLOGICAL >RAPE - HOW COULD YOU NOT HAVE - THAT IS AN INCREDIBLY HURTFUL ACCUSATION. How >in the world do you make amends for a situation you haven't apologized for? >You've let it go, but you never addressed the key issue or your behavior or >what you said. How are you going to make amends to Robin - send him a >homemade pie? What would amends look like for you through the internet or >email? Amends are about changing behavior Share. > > >Why would you set a rule that you will only talk offline to "spare FFL." Are >you kidding me? Spare FFL? From what? Sounds like a bullshit excuse to me - >again, you are deflecting, trying to present as being a loving person >committed to reconciliation, but your words and behavior bely you. Believe >you me, if you even had the tiniest thought that Robin could do such a thing >to you, you had best put your amends down right here in public where you have >witnesses - sounds pretty scary to me to go offline in such a case. And then >what, call for privacy, after it inevitably makes its way back here in some >form, and then refuse again to take any accountability for how the situation >went down? Double bullshit Share. (Blame Curtis for the use of that term - >gentle, accepting man that he is). > > >ARE YOU LISTENING? I realize I am giving you feedback you don't agree with, >but it is another way of looking at it, if you remain open-minded. > > >I am making no assumption about how you feel about me or my posts at this >time. THE REASON I SAID THAT *I DIDN'T DISLIKE YOU* WAS BECAUSE CURTIS >REPLIED TO THE POST OF MY GYPSY LAMENT WHICH WAS POSTED BECAUSE I TOOK OFFENSE >AT YOUR HITLER LOVE NOTES AND HE FIGURED I POSTED IT BECAUSE "HE GETS THAT I >DON'T LIKE YOU." THIS IS AN INACCURATE STATEMENT, WHICH I WAS CORRECTING. IF >YOU WOULD LIKE TO APOLOGIZE FOR SOMETHING TO ME, APOLOGIZE FOR BEING FULLY >INSENSITIVE TO THE SUFFERING OF THE WWII CASUALTIES AND THEIR DESCENDENTS WHO >MIGHT STILL FEEL SOME PAIN AROUND HITLER'S GENOCIDAL MISSION. > > >I AM WRITING IN CAPS BECAUSE I AM HOPING THAT YOU WILL LISTEN TO WHAT I HAVE >WRITTEN HERE; YOUR POST BELOW MISSED ALL OF MY POINTS IN MY POSTS TO YOU OVER >THE LAST DAY OR TWO. > > >Not to worry about my interaction with Curtis either - I'm over it. Like you >Share, I don't like to hang on to negativity. Every day is a new day and all >that crap. LOVE, EMILY > > > >>________________________________ >> From: Share Long <sharelon...@yahoo.com> >>To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> >>Sent: Tuesday, April 9, 2013 7:23 PM >>Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: parsing a la Descartes was HITLER'S VALENTINE >> >> >> >>Emily sometimes, and this is one of those times, you misread me to such an >>extent that I don't even know where to begin. Ok, using it as an example, >>I'll start with the end where you say that I never owe you an apology. But >>Emily I never think I OWE anyone an apology. I make an apology when I think >>I might have hurt someone's feelings. There's no sense of obligation on my >>part. So you see right there's a big misunderstanding. >> >>And if a few posts accumulate, then the misunderstandings accumulate and >>become like a tight ball of string, seemingly impossible to unravel. Plus you seem to make a lot of assumptions that I don't like you and or your posts neither of which is true. So more string to be unraveled. And in this current kerfufel, I seem to have misunderstood about your burn. I thought you told Curtis or someone that you had gotten physically burned. So I was offering some possible remedies. But it's true that I read posts quickly and skim long posts so I can get mixed up. It sounded like you were enjoying your exchanges with Curtis so I felt fine asking you rhetorically if FFL isn't funny and fun. Anyway, I hope you got your taxes done pretty easily. And I bet there's at least one good country song about taxes (-: >>Share >> >> >> >> >> >> >>________________________________ >> From: Emily Reyn <emilymae.r...@yahoo.com> >>To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> >>Sent: Sunday, April 7, 2013 1:40 PM >>Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: parsing a la Descartes was HITLER'S VALENTINE >> >> >> >>Share, I have no idea why you are apologizing for this. You have exactly >>demonstrated the principle of what Judy is saying. First, the comment you >>made about "isn't it fun and funny" was completely dismissive of my posts. >>Not to mention, you missed entirely what I was writing, why I was writing it, >>the context for why I was writing it. With regard to yourself, my >>communication to you started with my objection to your "Dolphie posts" and my >>posting, in response, that gypsy lament. I thought your posts callous and >>crude and disrespectful to all of the WWII casualties, also completely >>irrelevant/dismissive to what Robin was saying, but more than that, I was >>simply offended and was giving you feedback. I am just telling you how what >>you wrote affected me in the moment - I am over it and won't hold it against >>you. I am acutely aware that I don't think or communicate like you and I >>can't know what you were thinking or feeling when you wrote those posts - I give you, as a person certainly, the benefit of the doubt - I didn't give your posts as much. >> >> >>In applying what Steve said about you communicating from a different "angle", >>etc., I see that more and more and I often get a kick out of what you post (I >>am not holding a grudge either.) I appreciate that you acknowledge below >>that you did have a grudge or two last year and that you were not choosing to >>carry the term "psychological rape" forward. It's not an apology, but it is >>an indirect acknowledgement of a shift in your perception. >> >> >>One thing about FFL being an internet forum Share...it's conducive to >>illuminating our inner selves, our internal reality about ourselves, how we >>think, judgments we hold, potential discrepancies between our inner and our >>outer presentation, etc. (to ourselves and others'). If we show up, we >>subject ourselves to the possibility of feedback in many forms. It may or >>may not apply, but it may show up and one has no real control over it. You >>both give and receive here, whether you like it or not. >> >> >>And, just for the record, you never *owe me* an apology Share, just so you >>know. I'm over that misconception when it comes to FFL and the role it plays >>in my life. >> >>>________________________________ >>> From: Share Long <sharelon...@yahoo.com> >>>To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> >>>Sent: Sunday, April 7, 2013 10:49 AM >>>Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: parsing a la Descartes was HITLER'S >>>VALENTINE >>> >>> >>> >>>You're right. I did an advanced search and it was Raunchy who used the term >>>social aikido to describe an exchange I had with turq. Sorry if I offended >>>you Ann. Sorry if I didn't give you credit, Raunchy. Sorry, Robin for my >>>faulty memory. Sorry, Emily that I thought you were enjoying yourself on >>>FFL when you weren't. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>________________________________ >>> From: authfriend <authfri...@yahoo.com> >>>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com >>>Sent: Sunday, April 7, 2013 12:26 PM >>>Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: parsing a la Descartes was HITLER'S VALENTINE >>> >>> >>> >>>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long <sharelong60@...> wrote: >>>(snip) >>>> it was a Judy style correction for Judy who forgot that >>>> my appt is on Sunday afternoon* >>> >>>Um, and you thought you were correcting what from me? >>> >>>> My not carrying the grudge energy into 2013 also is applied >>>> to you as best as I can in any given moment. So no need to >>>> be concerned about psychological rape on my account. >>> >>>Interesting, Share will apologize at the drop of a hat >>>even when she hasn't done anything to apologize for, but >>>she simply cannot pry an apology out of her mouth (or >>>fingers) for having accused Robin of psychological rape. >>> >>>> It seems that you don't remember that AWB also compared >>>> our exchanges to verbal aikido (-: >>> >>>Hmmm, I don't either. And somehow it doesn't seem to be >>>in the archives. >>> >>>Ann, do *you* remember saying this? >>> >>>> Sorry, yahoo is still being wonky and sometimes I forget to >>>> look at Message View. I missed your first posting of the >>>> poignant poem about talking in bed. It touched me and my >>>> sentimental heart. I hope you can, in relation to me, adopt >>>> Curtis' style of gentle acceptance. >>> >>>I hope Robin is able to see you're making progress in >>>learning how to do irony. (Fortunately I use a plastic >>>cover on my keyboard, or it would be dead of coffee >>>poisoning.) >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> > >
