Interesting, I don't see why any of this could not be accurate. Anyway eating beef is not an issue for me - my big concerns are the factory farming and the inhumane treatment of animals while alive and inhumane methods of slaughter. I used to be a member of PETA when I was in Seattle - I buy Organic and free range just to do my part.
On Apr 15, 2013, at 7:25 PM, Michael Jackson <mjackso...@yahoo.com> wrote: > Obviously I dunno if this is accurate, but I found it on one web site: > > According to Vedic texts, cattle was regularly eaten in India during the > early, middle and late Vedic periods. According to historian Om Prakash, > author Food and Drinks in Ancient India , oxen and barren cows were offered > at rituals and eaten by priests; cows were eaten at marriage feasts; > slaughterhouses existed; and the flesh of horses, rams, buffalo and probably > birds were all eaten. In the later Vedic period, he wrote, oxen, big goats, > and sterile cows were slaughtered and cows, sheep, goats and horses were > offered as sacrifices. > > The Ramayana and the Mahabharata have references to beef eating. There is > also plenty of evidence—cattle bones with human teeth marks— from > archeological digs. One religious text referred to beef as “the best kind of > food” and quoted a 6th century B.C. Hindu sage as saying, “Some people do not > eat cow meat. I do so, provided it’s tender.” The Mahabharata describes one > king who was famous for slaughtering 2,000 cows a day and distributing meat > and grain to Brahmin priests. > > In 2002, Dwijendra Narayan Jha, a historian at the University of Delhi, > caused a big uproar when he asserted in his scholarly work, Holy Cow: Beef in > Indian Dietary Traditions that ancient Hindus ate beef. After excerpts were > released on the Internet and published in an Indian newspaper, his work was > called “sheer blasphemy” by the World Hindu Council, copies were burned in > front of his house, his publishers stopped printing the book and Jha had to > be taken to work under the protection of police. Academics were surprised by > the brouhaha. They saw the work as a simple historical survey that rehashed > material that scholars had known for centuries. > > > From: Ravi Chivukula <chivukula.r...@gmail.com> > To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 10:10 PM > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Questions Every Vegetarian Is Tired Of Answering > > > You are cracking me up MJ, with your 3 question marked question - why should > you be so surprised? > > I AM serious - of course I don't have any actual experience of it since I > have never owned cows or lived in the countryside, purely anecdotal. Not even > sure how many do it, rich vs poor. I am sure it's more prevalent now and you > need to balance that with the fact that cows are also abandoned and let loose > once they are old because there may be Hindus that don't want to have them > slaughtered yet think it's a burden to take care of them. > > It's only during the elections that politicians raise these issues - may be > wipe out a few people of the other religion so they could mobilize their > followers - not sure how often this happens now since I don't follow the news > in India - but there were several incidents where Hindus and Muslims would > kill each other during election time, but otherwise co-exist fine. > > Especially the Hindu Nationalist parties and the Islam based parties. And > Gurus like Amma hobnob with Hindu Nationalist parties - it's disgusting. > > > On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 6:49 PM, Michael Jackson <mjackso...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > Are you serious? Hindus really sell their cows to the Muslims??? > > > From: Ravi Chivukula <chivukula.r...@gmail.com> > To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 9:37 PM > > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Questions Every Vegetarian Is Tired Of Answering > > > Damn - a good question, not sure if I did - but then I can never do anything > wrong in her eyes. I think I cooked beef for my German Shepherd in India per > the vet's suggestion - she didn't mind as long as it wasn't her cooking and > was outside the house. My mom was very liberal. > > Hindus are cool with Muslims eating beef, in fact hypocrites because they > would sell their cows to be slaughtered. > > > > On Mon, Apr 15, 2013 at 5:42 PM, Michael Jackson <mjackso...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > Did you ever tell your mom you ate those cheeseburgers? > > As to the affectation of white folk taking on like Indians I have seen it in > various meditation guru movements like the Ananda people but it is really > laughable sometimes in the TMO, especially when you see the TM Mother Divine > interpretation of saris. > > Speaking of cheeseburgers, I always wondered how the Muslims in India get > away with eating cow when that would seem to be a rather inflammatory thing > to do in front of or near any Hindus. > > > From: Ravi Chivukula <chivukula.r...@gmail.com> > To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Monday, April 15, 2013 7:39 PM > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Questions Every Vegetarian Is Tired Of Answering > > > Oh yes you got mad at me Uncleji and my innocent, tender, fledgling > lacto-ovo-vegetarian feelings were hurt. > > Anyway I did eat cheeseburgers for a while too, a long time ago though for a > but I have a hard time digesting meat and yes totally spot on about making > nutrition into a belief system - it's natural, the novelty of all those > superficial lifestyle and beliefs when people get attracted to the Indian > religion. My head reeled when I first went to see Amma and there were all > these, apparently crazy white people dressed in white and Indian - it was > both hilarious and shocking at the same time. > > On Apr 15, 2013, at 9:26 AM, Bhairitu <noozg...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: > >> >> Who says I'm getting mad at you? But I also know that not all Indians >> are vegetarians. My tantra guru wasn't. And it is said that >> Maharishi's favorite dish was chicken tikka masala. I read a great >> article in India Currents years ago about an Indian discovering and >> loving cheeseburgers upon moving to the US. Ayurveda doesn't even >> preclude the use of meat. White folks though are often into making >> nutrition a belief system not what their body needs. As you can imagine >> I'm really popular among the veganuts.:-D >> >> On 04/14/2013 11:35 PM, Ravi Chivukula wrote: >> > Why are you getting mad at me Uncleji? I'm an eggetarian or if you would >> > rather - lacto-ovo-vegetarian but Organic Milk, Yogurt and Organic Free >> > Range Eggs - all at Trader Joe's Uncleji. >> > >> > >> > >> > On Sun, Apr 14, 2013 at 9:22 AM, Bhairitu <noozg...@sbcglobal.net> wrote: >> > >> >> ** >> >> >> >> >> >> On 04/14/2013 12:03 AM, Ravi Chivukula wrote: >> >>> http://youtu.be/ILl3_jQNvsM >> >>> >> >>> >> >> http://www.thedailymeal.com/please-dont-ask-any-your-vegetarian-friends-these >> >>> LOL >> >>> >> >> How 'bout "do you understand biochemical individuality?" Or "why do you >> >> look like a Seventh Day Adventist?" Or "do you want to go lift some >> >> weights with me?" >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > > > > > > > Reply via web post Reply to sender Reply to group
