Regardless that's mighty generous of you to post that picture demonstrating
Kali would be like Judy and not some random vile, vindictive bitch.

It's been such a positive day for you - this and your loyalty, where you
took offense at not being labeled dishonest so as to not offend your idols
- Share and Curtis.

Very admirable qualities Steve baby, you have touched my heart !!!



On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 7:15 PM, seventhray27 <[email protected]>wrote:

> **
>
>
> You would say that Ravi.  She's not nearly as attractive as Judy.  No
> accounting for taste.
>
>
> --- In [email protected], Ravi Chivukula wrote:
> >
> > Beautiful picture Stevie - what an uncanny, striking resemblance to Judy
> - damn !!!
> >
> >
> > On Apr 17, 2013, at 3:09 PM, "seventhray27" steve.sundur@... wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Gonna tell you right now Ravi. This is my kinda woman!
> > >
> > > And I'll tell you what brotha, you couldn't handle her, no way, no
> how. So just step aside and let those who are able take care of business.
> > >
> > > Stay at a safe distance, and I'll fill you in on any details. I don't
> want you to get hurt.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In [email protected], Ravi Chivukula wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Apr 17, 2013, at 2:06 PM, "seventhray27" steve.sundur@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In [email protected], Ravi Chivukula wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Ha - you don't see any difference in Share's post and some
> curious questions by MJ?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Anyway love to hear on what you think Kali is :-).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I know you are not the smartest so here's a clue to help you -
> Kali's not a vile, vindictive bitch.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Excellent Ravi. Excellent. See, you're not as dimwitted as some
> people make you out to be. And I'm going to point this out when people
> accuse you so. Yes I am.
> > > >
> > > > You are cracking me up Steve - I have never met people like that,
> not even remotely, regardless of whether they love or hate me. But of
> course some idiots like you may want to really convince themselves, I say
> all power to you - whatever helps you cope :-)
> > > >
> > > > You never answer my question - so again - oh Steve baby enlighten us
> on Kali - clue, she's not a vile, vindictive bitch.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Apr 17, 2013, at 12:20 PM, "seventhray27" steve.sundur@wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > Share, you got your Kali out, and I like it immensely. But
> even your Kali is always tempered with a big dose of realism and
> compassion.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Did you notice the other day when Ravi was conversing with
> Michael and (to a lesser extent), me in a, what you might call, "normal"
> fashion. Just some back and forth. No lording over, no "I AM THIS, THAT,
> AND THE OTHER, thing going on. I thought it was pretty cool. But I figured
> it wouldn't last long, and sure enough, it didn't.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I'm gonna go back and read his comment that elicited this
> response on your part.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In [email protected], Share Long wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Ravi, the first week you were in San Diego, you sounded
> happy. But the longer you stay there, the more miserable you sound. And
> sadly you've just about totally lost your sense of humor. I hope your
> project there ends soon and you can return home and be happy again.Â
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > BTW I agree that Robin does not have to dumb down his
> brilliance for anyone and I think that many of us feel the beauty of his
> words sometimes. I'm talking about the other times when one needs a
> buzzsaw to cut through the jungle of words and phrases to get to the
> conceptual oasis. And don't even get me started on the Irony! For that
> one needs as reading assistant, the two headed Hydra, one head parsing for
> the straight forward meaning and one for the Descartian doubt technique
> meaning.Â
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > > > > From: Ravi Chivukula chivukula.ravi@
> > > > > > > > To: "[email protected]"
> [email protected]
> > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 1:28 PM
> > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: parsing a la Descartes was
> HITLER'S VALENTINE
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Â
> > > > > > > > OMG - hilarious stuff dear Share - what a clueless,
> dishonest person you are. Judy has exposed your lies several times - yet
> you are unwilling, unable to see it.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > No - Robin doesn't have to dumb down his brilliance for you,
> Barry, LG and Steve, all you need is a dictionary, a heart to feel the
> beauty of his words.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > I will get to your garbage when I have some time.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > On Apr 17, 2013, at 11:09 AM, Share Long sharelong60@ wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Â
> > > > > > > > >laughinggull I want to say that sometimes I find Robin's
> writing simple and clear. But very often I find it unclear and voluminous
> which for me adds up to unreadable. IMO Judy demonstrates a certain kind
> of co dependent arrogance every time she berates people for not getting off
> their butts, putting in the effort, etc. to understand Robin's writing.Â
> Other posters here manages many times to be both clear AND profound. Why
> can't Robin? Ok, ok, people have a right to have their unique voice.Â
> And I actually enjoy all the different writing styles. But if a person
> wants to be understood, wouldn't they make an attempt to write more clearly
> for their audience? Especially given that at other times they are able to
> do so?  Â
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >________________________________
> > > > > > > > > From: laughinggull108 [email protected]
> > > > > > > > >To: [email protected]
> > > > > > > > >Sent: Wednesday, April 17, 2013 10:25 AM
> > > > > > > > >Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: parsing a la Descartes was
> HITLER'S VALENTINE
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >Â
> > > > > > > > >--- In [email protected], "authfriend"
> authfriend@ wrote:
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> --- In [email protected], laughinggull108
> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >> >
> > > > > > > > >> > Aw shucks, dumbass, I was rooting for ya not only that
> you
> > > > > > > > >> > *would* do it but *could* do it...very similar to the
> "dog
> > > > > > > > >> > ate my homework". Well, Steve, it'll remain in the holy
> > > > > > > > >> > archives that you *did* try, just as others here have
> > > > > > > > >> > asked those "in the know" to interpret the writings of
> you
> > > > > > > > >> > know who.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> Uh-oh, LG, you're going the route of the other
> prevaricators
> > > > > > > > >> around here. One of their tricks is not to use names,
> which
> > > > > > > > >> they think makes it safe for them to seriously distort an
> > > > > > > > >> incident in which these pseudo-anonymous folks have been
> > > > > > > > >> involved, making it sound shifty.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >My purposeful removal of names, as in this case, was so as
> not to bring more attention to those that probably crave it.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> We know who "you know who" is, of course. But "others
> here"
> > > > > > > > >> refers to Xeno and "those 'in the know'" refers to me.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >"Others here" now includes Steve, and also includes me as
> I've asked Robin on at least one occasion to explain in language that I can
> understand without all the other stuff that merely confuses the point he is
> making. "In the know" now includes dumbass, and might also include Ann, RD,
> and Emily who on several occasions have indicated that they understand what
> he has written.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> Here's what really happened: Xeno demanded that I
> interpret
> > > > > > > > >> some post of Robin's *in order to prove* that I understood
> > > > > > > > >> him, and I refused to do any interpreting on that basis. I
> > > > > > > > >> considered it insulting, given that I had already spent a
> > > > > > > > >> huge amount of time explaining Robin to people (including
> > > > > > > > >> Xeno) who couldn't take the time to read his posts, or at
> > > > > > > > >> least to put any effort into absorbing what he had said.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> > The evidence seems to be leaning towards nobody really
> > > > > > > > >> > knows what he's talking about.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> No, there's no such evidence. I think what you mean is
> > > > > > > > >> that *you* have trouble understanding him. We know he
> > > > > > > > >> confuses Steve and Xeno and Barry and Share as well, but
> > > > > > > > >> the five of you aren't everybody.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >You are correct...I have great trouble understanding him.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> Too bad as I was really
> > > > > > > > >> > hoping that we had a saint in our midst.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> Well, that was pretty silly, wasn't it? You know, since
> > > > > > > > >> Robin himself would be the first person to discourage the
> > > > > > > > >> notion. Nor did DrD suggest such a thing. Robin is
> > > > > > > > >> REEEEEELY REEEEELY smart, but he ain't no saint.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >That was the final snarky jab there. While maybe not a
> saint, I'm always hoping I can learn something from everyone who comments
> here.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> Also, it appears neither you nor Steve read what DrD
> > > > > > > > >> wrote with attention. He was suggesting that folks try
> > > > > > > > >> validating his analysis of Robin's writing for themselves,
> > > > > > > > >> not offering to do it for them.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> Hmm, now I'm beginning to see what's behind this. You and
> > > > > > > > >> Steve don't want to risk the attempt, because if you tried
> > > > > > > > >> and couldn't see what DrD describes, you'd be hesitant to
> > > > > > > > >> report your failure lest it appear that it was due to your
> > > > > > > > >> lack of comprehension, rather than DrD's analysis being
> > > > > > > > >> faulty.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> So your cowardice in this regard leads you to imply that
> > > > > > > > >> DrD and I have been posturing and that Robin has said
> > > > > > > > >> nothing of any significance.
> > > > > > > > >>
> > > > > > > > >> I would expect that kind of craven maneuver from Steve.
> > > > > > > > >> I'm surprised to see you engaging in it, LG.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >It's not deliberate by any means but rather arises from a
> sense of frustration in not being about to understand what someone is
> writing. BTW, Robin's not the only one whose writing I don't get. I'm open
> to understanding but none of you are helping other than to say get off your
> ass, put some work into it, or provide links to the posts so we can go back
> and read them again. Don't you see how circular this is? And your
> explanations are by no means succinct nor easy to understand.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >Perhaps one of my motives *is* to prove you wrong but for
> the life of me, I don't know why. I guess I have some work ahead.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >> The really interesting thing is that Robin isn't all that
> > > > > > > > >> hard to understand for those willing to put a little
> effort
> > > > > > > > >> into it.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > >But is the effort worth the reward?
> > > > > > > > >
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