On 9/12/05 3:06 PM, "Peter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> --- Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
>> It's interesting. the dark side of these people who
>> try to pass themselves
>> off as the latest guru. That tendency (to declare
>> oneself a teacher or guru
>> or "enlightened") I tend to associate with nothing
>> more than a refined and
>> clever ego. I remember how disappointed I was when I
>> found out that Charlie
>> Lutes had loved to frequent strip clubs.
> 
> This opens a question for inquiry, and I apply this to
> myself, too. Why would such behavior on Charlie's part
> bother us so much? He liked to look at naked women.
> Okay.... I have known other people in the past that I
> respect and admire that did the same thing from time
> to time. Why is it such a problem? Hmmmm.

He tried to BS the initiator who found him there, that he was there for his
sake...as if to save him and other "stray" initiators. Felt to me as if
there was some shadow hiding from the light. Of course, at the same time, he
could have been telling the truth. Who knows? I certainly don't. 




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