--- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I'm sorry, but the idea that in this day and age
> there are still intelligent people who have to be
> educated as to how strip clubs exploit women as
> sex objects is just too depressing to contemplate.


I am sorry you are depressed. I have heard many such arguments and
have found them to either be addressing other issues (e.g. vaj -- 3rd
world brothels) or their conjectures about dancers are not empirically
based -- as I tried to point out in the adjacent post, copied in 72454
linked below.

Have you talked to many dancers? Have you been to many clubs? (lots of
women go). Or are your concerns of an abstract nature? If so, that
does not disqualify them -- just a word of caution that it is possible
that they are outdated or not firmly established to begin with. 

Do you have points to counter any of my points in 72454? New
information? New insights from talking to dancers? If so, please
share. As I have said, I am open to the possiblity that contemporary
dancers in modern US club are exploited, but I have yet to see any
compelling evidence of such. If there is such evidence in abundance, I
have been inept in finding it. Please share.

But first, if you do wish to make a case, define "exploitation". Per
the definitions I offered up, I just don't see it.

Apparently, not all intelligent, informed and progressive women on the 
forum agree with your assessment, see note from Vashti. 

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/72454






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