--- In [email protected], akasha_108 <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> > --- In [email protected], Peter <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > It's interesting. the dark side of these people who
> > > > try to pass themselves
> > > > off as the latest guru. That tendency (to declare
> > > > oneself a teacher or guru
> > > > or "enlightened") I tend to associate with nothing
> > > > more than a refined and
> > > > clever ego. I remember how disappointed I was when I
> > > > found out that Charlie
> > > > Lutes had loved to frequent strip clubs.
> > > 
> > > This opens a question for inquiry, and I apply this to
> > > myself, too. Why would such behavior on Charlie's part
> > > bother us so much? He liked to look at naked women.
> > > Okay.... I have known other people in the past that I
> > > respect and admire that did the same thing from time
> > > to time. Why is it such a problem? Hmmmm.
> 
>  
> > Strip clubs exploit women as sex objects.
> 
> So is your underlying premise that women are not mature or smart
> enough to make such decisions for themselves? That they need 
society,
> particularly a matriarchial society, to make such decisions for 
them? 
> 
> Dancing naked, or semi naked, and talking to a lot of men -- the far
> greater portion of their time spent -- may be demeaning to some 
woman.
> Others find it a great confidence booster. Some say "if you feel
> comfortable about your looks and body dancing naked in front of
> strangers, you feel pretty comfortable most anywhere." 

Then they can go pose nude for art classes.

Strip joints exploit women and distorts their OWN perceptions of the 
relationship between men and women. Its a very nasty work 
environment. Perhaps not as nasty as street walking or working in a 
male-operated brothel, but a good portion of strippers end up doing 
tricks in exchange for gifts of various kinds anyway.

How many strippers do you know socially?




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