Comrade Em, Perhaps it is time to give Comrade Share time to reflect on her failings to the Party. This re-education camp is a useful tool for destroying the revisionist roots of the intellectual elite, however, a self-criticism session must ultimately serve the needs of the Party! United, We March Forward!!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emilymae.reyn" <emilymae.reyn@...> wrote: > > Share, Share, Share.....I hesitate to weigh in here, but if you think the > post below by Curtis is an example of his "fine writing" I don't know what to > tell you. This is just a comment from him supporting an "us and them" > interpretation on your part, which you are apparently loving as it supports > an approach you've used over and over - indicating very black and white > thinking, IMHO. Curtis can and has put forth some fine writing, no doubt, > but this is not it. > > It's not about Robin Share - it's about you. It's not about Robin's > "supporters" (us and them again), it's about what you said and encouraging > you to examine why you used a term that you still have yet to define in a way > that supports your continued use of the term or what you posted at the time > in question. Curiously, and I continue to ask this of you, although I know > you aren't going to do it, can you post a definition of the term that > correctly reflects how you were actually feeling initially and how you were > feeling after your experience with Robin settled in more definitively - a few > weeks later? > > You now say you were experiencing a "range of emotions" from grumpiness to > psychological rape. That doesn't make any logical sense either as it is > highly unlikely you would emotionally maintain such a range *in the moment* > and your post indicates only the former. The latter feeling (which was what > exactly) would supersede. > > O.K. It is *your* experience Share, of that only you *know.* But you have > yet to explain what it was in terms that even come close to use of the term > "psychological rape" and your posts simply don't reflect it. You now say you > were emotionally upset and overwhelmed and lacking psychological development. > Are you trying to say that you used the term in error because of your > internal landscape at the time? You say your POV is accurate - SHARE, WHAT > IS YOUR POINT OF VIEW ON YOUR USE OF THE TERM AT THE TIME YOU USED IT. HOW > ARE YOU DEFINING IT WITHIN YOURSELF. FROM AN IDEAS PERSPECTIVE, DEFINING THE > TERM IS KEY TO YOUR UNDERSTANDING OF WHETHER IT MIGHT OR MIGHT NOT HAVE BEEN > THE CORRECT TERM TO USE. WHY WON'T YOU PUT FORTH AN EXPLANATION OF THIS? IF > YOU INCORPORATE FEEDBACK AND FIND THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE ERRED, WHY IS A > RETRACTION SUCH A LOATHSOME THING TO DO? > > "Retraction" can be a very useful thing. Here, I'll do one for you now. > "For the record, I retract my entire paragraph speaking to cultural context > of the Roustabout song. I had done no research when I wrote that paragraph > and other than the idea that cultural context is important in understanding > lyrics, the paragraph is garbage and was written quickly with no clear > thought process behind it. My apologies to raunchy for posting that back to > her in response to the discussion that was unfolding. It was representative > of a thought process that was unfolding in my head and was not germane to > question of whether the lyrics were describing a gang rape or consensual > meeting "in the pines." > > You may not choose to retract your statement. But in consideration to the > time and effort that many have spent asking you to explain why you used it - > you have still not done this. Until I understand what you mean by that term > and how you are defining it for yourself, what is the point of anything that > you are writing to attempt to resolve the issue? > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long <sharelong60@> wrote: > > > > Curtis, when I'm rushing in the early morning, I save your posts for > > reading later.Â Why?Â Because just reading them makes me settle down and > > feel more reasonable and therefore happier.Â Now that I think of it, this > > is IMO the highest compliment I can give to a writer.Â And just now I > > recognize that such writing here on FFL has evoked in me the desire to be > > exactly this kind of writer.Â Hope that's not too mushy. > > > > > > It's strange is it not that we both have these threads going on about the R > > word?!Â Hmmm, let us ponder which group is common to both those threads.Â > > Let us ponder...never mind! > > > > > > It'll be eight months on May 6!Â Unbelievable!Â And with a threat that it > > will continue.Â But with today's post I think I've answered all of Judy's > > continuing concerns so maybe she will drop it now and or go badger Robin > > about it.Â > > > > > > And that there last sentence is probably my most deluded thought of all. > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: curtisdeltablues <curtisdeltablues@> > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 10:21 AM > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: J gets another fact wrong and S apologizes to R > > > > > > > > Â > > Nice post Share. I'm sure Robin will be along with his apologies for > > making you feel as though the phrase was the best way to express it. > > > > Oddly enough the committee giving lip-service to defending Robin's honor > > have dragged out the discussion 777 months now, making it a MUCH bigger > > part of Robin's online legacy than it would have been if they had just > > brought up their objections and then DROPPED it. > > > > But their desire to get you to say "uncle" was too strong, so they ended up > > shredding the doggy pull toy they claimed they were protecting. The > > chances that this term will be found by anyone looking up Robin are now > > EXPONENTIALLY bigger through their diligence. I'm sure he appreciates > > their HELP! > > > > On the other hand, as you mentioned, this will probably not be the thing > > that swings their vote in one direction or another about the guy. > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long <sharelong60@> wrote: > > > > > > Ok, Judy, apologies accepted, thank you.ÃÂ Moving on, you think I was > > > wrong when I said psychologically raped to Robin.ÃÂ I think I was > > > emotionally upset, as well as overwhelmed by many other inputs.ÃÂ I > > > think I was lacking in psychological development.ÃÂ I think I was > > > lacking in certain communication skills. > > > > > > Nonetheless I think my POV is more accurate and inclusive of the whole > > > truth than yours.ÃÂ And my inner Xeno is smiling wryly about that. ÃÂ > > > ÃÂ > > > > > > My statements on and about Sept 6 were all genuine expressions of how I > > > was feeling when I wrote them.ÃÂ Even now I assess those posts as > > > accurately reporting that I was very upset with Robin and also giving him > > > the benefit of the doubt because I wanted to see if there was a way to > > > continue being friends.ÃÂ It is true that I was experiencing a mix and > > > range of physical and emotional states from grumpiness to feeling > > > psychologically raped.ÃÂ > > > > > > Mix and range of inner experiences is something humans experience.ÃÂ > > > Though evidently not all humans recognize this fact. ÃÂ ÃÂ > > > > > > In addition, every time Xeno, Curtis, Steve, feste and others write about > > > this, their clarity and greater objectivity has helped me understand what > > > was often subjective and emotionally challenging for me.ÃÂ So I am > > > grateful to them all for helping me find the words to understand events > > > and individuals that I'm still trying to understand.ÃÂ And I continue > > > to incorporate their understandings and wordings into my thinking and > > > writing about it.ÃÂ EMILY, take note, my incorporating of the insights > > > of others will continue to happen. > > > > > > Judy, it's not that I keep going lower and lower.ÃÂ It's that your > > > assessment of your POV keeps going higher and higher.ÃÂ Indicating only > > > that it's all relative. > > > > > > As for your concern about Robin's reputation, as one poster recently said > > > here, what I said was a blip on the screen in comparison to Robin's own > > > posts.ÃÂ I'd add that the postings of many of his supporters also > > > affects his reputation negatively, as difficult as that might be for them > > > to acknowledge.ÃÂ > > > > > > Reasonable people everywhere will consider all that is pertinent.ÃÂ Or > > > maybe ignore the whole thing.ÃÂ Beyond that it is the workings of karma. > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: authfriend <authfriend@> > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2013 10:10 AM > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: J gets another fact wrong and S apologizes > > > to R > > > > > > > > > > > > ÃÂ > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long <sharelong60@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Poor archives, still being selectively eschewed by Judy. > > > > Correcting Judy:ÃÂ I joined FFL in May 2012 and Robin > > > > rejoined in June 2012. > > > > > > You are absolutely right, my mistake, and my apologies. > > > > > > Robin *first* joined FFL in June 2011, left in January > > > 2012, and returned in June. You joined in May 2012, > > > as you say. Apparently I conflated the two June dates. > > > I should have double-checked. > > > > > > However, my point stands: You were not new either to FFL > > > or to Robin at the time he made the remarks that you > > > decided four weeks later constituted "psychological rape." > > > You had been on FFL for three-and-a-half months, and your > > > conversations with Robin had begun in early July, two > > > months previously. > > > > > > >ÃÂ Aren't you all glad I straightened THAT out?!ÃÂ Dear Robin, > > > >practicing just in case:ÃÂ please forgive me for not joining FFL in > > > >the same month as you did thus rendering Judy a LIAR.ÃÂ I hope you can > > > >understand.ÃÂ Shalom and all the best always, Share > > > > PSÃÂ May I take this opportunity to wish you Happy Birthday a few > > > > days early?ÃÂ > > > > > > > > > >