Fainting souls in peril's hour,
Yield not to the Tempter's pow'r
On the rising Field rely,
Jesus Christ now reigns, now reigns within.
> 
> Sweet Redeemer from within,
> Borne on wings of love.
> 
> >
> > Meditators for Christ!  Yup, meditating finding the seer of the heart, 
> > finding in Jesus a spiritual brother who was literally calling us into our 
> > true divinity, which is also our ultimate humanity. 
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon <mdixon.6569@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Buck, if you really do your research, you'll find that members of ALL 
> > > religions have a tendency to dismiss the validity and value of other 
> > > religions. All religions have adherents with different levels of 
> > > understanding the truths about their own religion and other religions as 
> > > well. Greater spiritual awareness raises the level of understanding which 
> > > raises one above the base level of the collective.
> > > 
> > >  
> > > 
> > > ________________________________
> > >  From: Buck 
> > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > > Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2013 7:58 PM
> > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: All Meditators are for Christ!
> > >   
> > >    
> > >  
> > > The truth is that many of us have a mixed history with the word 
> > > "Christ". If we've been on a spiritual path for awhile, we might have 
> > > outgrown a more dogmatic vision or dislike the way Christianity has 
> > > treated other religions, or have issues with Christian denials of the 
> > > validity of science. 
> > > 
> > > --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > >
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Good old Hindu triumphalism!  Yes if Christianity would just abandon 
> > > > all the theological doctrines that distinguish it from other religious 
> > > > ideas...
> > > > 
> > > > THEN...
> > > > 
> > > > TM fulfill it's goals!  How can you tell triumphalism from a sort of 
> > > > broad but simpleminded ecumenicalism that it became popular among 
> > > > religious leaders to give lip-service to in the 1960's?
> > > > 
> > > > Just switch the ideas around and see if you accept them. Here we go 
> > > > Buck:
> > > > 
> > > > If you accept Jesus as your personal savior, and maintain all the 
> > > > necessary sacraments of the Church, including but not limited to going 
> > > > to confession before receiving holy communion (Jesus tastes just like 
> > > > chicken) you will gain your desired state of Brahman consciousness and 
> > > > life in the eternal limbo of the very poorly defined eternal future 
> > > > promised to you by Maharishi when you die.
> > > > 
> > > > Not so appealing is it?  Because in your heart of hearts you are 
> > > > dismissing all of the core theology of Christianity (psssst, over here, 
> > > > keep it down, keep it down...it also is dismissing that OTHER one that, 
> > > > you know might kill us for saying this) and proclaiming that YOUR 
> > > > version of imagining how things REALLY are in the universe is the 
> > > > rightest of the right, the bestest of the best, and NOT the 
> > > > penultimate, but the underused but less flashy sounding ULTIMATE itself.
> > > > 
> > > > This is why secular people are suspicious of religious ideas. While 
> > > > there is a lot of "all we are saying is that you need to love our 
> > > > brothers and sisters", underneath it is the presumed arrogance of 
> > > > absolute truth.  The kind of truth that humans totally suck at, and yet 
> > > > perversely, believe they are really, really good at. (It just gives us 
> > > > an epistemological boner to feel so SURE about something doesn't it?)
> > > > 
> > > > So enjoy you golden mammaries of pure knowledge if that floats your 
> > > > boat.  (Still perky after all these years, must have had some work 
> > > > done.)  But drop the triumphalist nonsense about other religions.  It 
> > > > just makes you sound (like it did Maharishi) like you need to get off 
> > > > the farm a little more and interact with people who have not drunk the 
> > > > same brand of that oversweetened beverage with the equally enthusiastic 
> > > > boundaries violator, red pitcher who looks just a little too happy to 
> > > > have broken down the WALL to pitch HIS product in OUR living room. 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > However, there's also a deep, non-religious, radical truth at the 
> > > > > core that we simply have to reclaim, which is that we ALL have the 
> > > > > Christ energy within us as our higher spiritual potential. Even if 
> > > > > we're a Buddhist. Or a Jew. Or a pagan.  
> > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Of course linguistically 'Christ' actually comes from the root 
> > > > > > meaning "anointed" and it's the part of us that is blessed, 
> > > > > > suffused, and permeated with divinity.  
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > We may not call it Christ because of the associations, but it's 
> > > > > > > actually a higher octave of our true nature. It's the part of 
> > > > > > > our being that is at one with The Divine The Unified Field of All 
> > > > > > > Nature, that expresses unconditional love for all people and all 
> > > > > > > things, and yes including those who harm us, that is pouring 
> > > > > > > forth more soul into manifest form.  
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Christ's the dimension of us that is incarnating more Godliness 
> > > > > > > > into this planet, even if we don't believe in God.  It's 
> > > > > > > > Physics and it's Reality. 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Meditators for Christ!
> > > > > > > > By Christ!
> > > > > > > > Come to Meditation,
> > > > > > > > -Buck in the Dome
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, "Jason" 
> > > > > > > > <jedi_spock@> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > ---  Share Long <sharelong60@> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > hey salyavin, according to the Catholic Church of my 
> > > > > > > > > > > youth, once a person is baptised they have what is 
> > > > > > > > > > > called, an indelible mark on the soul showing that.  If 
> > > > > > > > > > > I remember correctly, the other sacraments that leave 
> > > > > > > > > > > indelible marks are Confirmation and Holy Orders.  So in 
> > > > > > > > > > > this sense one is never really even an ex Catholic.  I * 
> > > > > > > > > > > left the Church * when I was 17.  In the beginning I 
> > > > > > > > > > > thought of myself as an ex or lapsed Catholic.  But that 
> > > > > > > > > > > label has dropped from my thinking as time goes by.  And 
> > > > > > > > > > > sometimes for family events, I still attend Mass and 
> > > > > > > > > > > Communion.  I admit this probably horrifies me half 
> > > > > > > > > > > sister who has been a devout Catholic.  OTOH she did ask 
> > > > > > > > > > > me to be godmother for her youngest so maybe not (-:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > ---  "salyavin808" <fintlewoodlewix@> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > Interesting. That's quite a load to put on someone 
> > > > > > > > > > methinks. I wasn't
> > > > > > > > > > even christened and so have no deep early programming to 
> > > > > > > > > > make me feel
> > > > > > > > > > part of any church but an indelible mark, that's heavy!
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > I hate it when I hear people say they were born Jewish or 
> > > > > > > > > > Muslim or
> > > > > > > > > > whatever because they weren't. We are all born scientists, 
> > > > > > > > > > curious
> > > > > > > > > > and open minded but the adult world seems to be in a race 
> > > > > > > > > > to beat
> > > > > > > > > > that out of us and as soon as we are set in our ways the 
> > > > > > > > > > poison gets
> > > > > > > > > > passed on. My parents were really cool about things like 
> > > > > > > > > > that
> > > > > > > > > > and it took me a long time to notice. I Should thank them 
> > > > > > > > > > for being
> > > > > > > > > > so irreligious but still very moral.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > I really don't like the word seeker and humanist sounds a 
> > > > > > > > > > > little dry.  I've read books etc. in which people use 
> > > > > > > > > > > the phrase spiritual but not religious.  But even the 
> > > > > > > > > > > word spiritual doesn't sound encompassing enough to me 
> > > > > > > > > > > now.  Does that make any sense?
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > I don't like anything that sounds new-agey like seeker 
> > > > > > > > > > either,
> > > > > > > > > > because I'm not really. I used to be a determined "finder" 
> > > > > > > > > > as
> > > > > > > > > > I refered to having discovered TM but I'm a bit more 
> > > > > > > > > > agnostic now.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Same with spiritual as it it sounds like being involved in 
> > > > > > > > > > something
> > > > > > > > > > that isn't actually real in the sense that there is some 
> > > > > > > > > > sort of
> > > > > > > > > > extra realm to be discovered, when it seems to me that all 
> > > > > > > > > > I'm
> > > > > > > > > > doing is refining how I see this one. And even then I don't 
> > > > > > > > > > see how 
> > > > > > > > > > we ever see anything other than what our head machinery can 
> > > > > > > > > > cope
> > > > > > > > > > with in a mechanical sense and we've got evolution to thank 
> > > > > > > > > > for
> > > > > > > > > > that. I'm the most materialist meditator I ever met...
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > You are not a materialist.  You are a dialectical 
> > > > > > > > > rationalist and an eclectical scientist.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Some religionists are also highly materialistic.  Some 
> > > > > > > > > atheists are also highly spiritual.  The two are not 
> > > > > > > > > mutually exclusive.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > How about devoted Earthling?
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Like it. Sounds like an acceptance of reality with an 
> > > > > > > > > > intention
> > > > > > > > > > to make the most of what we've got.
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > >   
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > > > > > > >  From: salyavin808 <fintlewoodlewix@>
> > > > > > > > > > > To: mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com 
> > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 1:12 PM
> > > > > > > > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Getting Groovy at the 
> > > > > > > > > > > Godless Church.
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > >   
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, "Buck" 
> > > > > > > > > > > <dhamiltony2k5@> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > That is interesting.  Lot like the primitive Quaker 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > meeting.  Like the Sunday Quaker meeting we have in 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Fairfield.  Very high spiritual group gathering but 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > not religious in the sense of iron age mythology.   
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Very contemporary.
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > Interesting how something fills a need that we all have, 
> > > > > > > > > > > whether it's
> > > > > > > > > > > religious or not doesn't seem to matter. When they start 
> > > > > > > > > > > reading
> > > > > > > > > > > Richard Dawkins lectures and saying 'all praise to DNA' 
> > > > > > > > > > > at the end is when I'll start to think it's odd...
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > Polling shows that ex-Catholics are the third largest 
> > > > > > > > > > > > religious group in the United States. 
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > What do they call themselves now then?
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2013-04-24/national/38776675_1_communion-body-and-blood-catholic-church
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