Bleeding hearts defiled by sin,
The Unified Field can make you clean;
Contrite souls with guilt oppressed,
The Unified Field can give, can give you rest. 
> 
> Sweet Redeemer from within,
> Borne on the wings,
> the wings of love.
> > 
> > You that mourn our follies past,
> > Precious hours and years laid waste,
> > Turn to The Unified Field, om turn and live,
> > Jesus Christ can still, can still forgive.
> > > 
> > > Sweet Redeemer from within,
> > > Borne on wings of love.
> > > > 
> > > > Fainting souls in peril's hour,
> > > > Yield not to the Tempter's pow'r
> > > > On the rising Field rely,
> > > > Jesus Christ now reigns, now reigns within.
> > > > > 
> > > > > Sweet Redeemer from within,
> > > > > Borne on wings of love.
> > > > > 
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Meditators for Christ!  Yup, meditating finding the seer of the 
> > > > > > heart, finding in Jesus a spiritual brother who was literally 
> > > > > > calling us into our true divinity, which is also our ultimate 
> > > > > > humanity. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon <mdixon.6569@> 
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Buck, if you really do your research, you'll find that members of 
> > > > > > > ALL religions have a tendency to dismiss the validity and value 
> > > > > > > of other religions. All religions have adherents with different 
> > > > > > > levels of understanding the truths about their own religion and 
> > > > > > > other religions as well. Greater spiritual awareness raises the 
> > > > > > > level of understanding which raises one above the base level of 
> > > > > > > the collective.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > > >  From: Buck 
> > > > > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > > > > > > Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2013 7:58 PM
> > > > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: All Meditators are for Christ!
> > > > > > >   
> > > > > > >    
> > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > The truth is that many of us have a mixed history with the word 
> > > > > > > "Christ". If we've been on a spiritual path for awhile, we might 
> > > > > > > have outgrown a more dogmatic vision or dislike the way 
> > > > > > > Christianity has treated other religions, or have issues with 
> > > > > > > Christian denials of the validity of science. 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, "curtisdeltablues" 
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Good old Hindu triumphalism!  Yes if Christianity would just 
> > > > > > > > abandon all the theological doctrines that distinguish it from 
> > > > > > > > other religious ideas...
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > THEN...
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > TM fulfill it's goals!  How can you tell triumphalism from a 
> > > > > > > > sort of broad but simpleminded ecumenicalism that it became 
> > > > > > > > popular among religious leaders to give lip-service to in the 
> > > > > > > > 1960's?
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Just switch the ideas around and see if you accept them. Here 
> > > > > > > > we go Buck:
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > If you accept Jesus as your personal savior, and maintain all 
> > > > > > > > the necessary sacraments of the Church, including but not 
> > > > > > > > limited to going to confession before receiving holy communion 
> > > > > > > > (Jesus tastes just like chicken) you will gain your desired 
> > > > > > > > state of Brahman consciousness and life in the eternal limbo of 
> > > > > > > > the very poorly defined eternal future promised to you by 
> > > > > > > > Maharishi when you die.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Not so appealing is it?  Because in your heart of hearts you 
> > > > > > > > are dismissing all of the core theology of Christianity 
> > > > > > > > (psssst, over here, keep it down, keep it down...it also is 
> > > > > > > > dismissing that OTHER one that, you know might kill us for 
> > > > > > > > saying this) and proclaiming that YOUR version of imagining how 
> > > > > > > > things REALLY are in the universe is the rightest of the right, 
> > > > > > > > the bestest of the best, and NOT the penultimate, but the 
> > > > > > > > underused but less flashy sounding ULTIMATE itself.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > This is why secular people are suspicious of religious ideas. 
> > > > > > > > While there is a lot of "all we are saying is that you need to 
> > > > > > > > love our brothers and sisters", underneath it is the presumed 
> > > > > > > > arrogance of absolute truth.  The kind of truth that humans 
> > > > > > > > totally suck at, and yet perversely, believe they are really, 
> > > > > > > > really good at. (It just gives us an epistemological boner to 
> > > > > > > > feel so SURE about something doesn't it?)
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > So enjoy you golden mammaries of pure knowledge if that floats 
> > > > > > > > your boat.  (Still perky after all these years, must have had 
> > > > > > > > some work done.)  But drop the triumphalist nonsense about 
> > > > > > > > other religions.  It just makes you sound (like it did 
> > > > > > > > Maharishi) like you need to get off the farm a little more and 
> > > > > > > > interact with people who have not drunk the same brand of that 
> > > > > > > > oversweetened beverage with the equally enthusiastic boundaries 
> > > > > > > > violator, red pitcher who looks just a little too happy to have 
> > > > > > > > broken down the WALL to pitch HIS product in OUR living room. 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > However, there's also a deep, non-religious, radical truth at 
> > > > > > > > > the core that we simply have to reclaim, which is that we ALL 
> > > > > > > > > have the Christ energy within us as our higher spiritual 
> > > > > > > > > potential. Even if we're a Buddhist. Or a Jew. Or a pagan. 
> > > > > > > > >  
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > Of course linguistically 'Christ' actually comes from the 
> > > > > > > > > > root meaning "anointed" and it's the part of us that is 
> > > > > > > > > > blessed, suffused, and permeated with divinity.  
> > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > We may not call it Christ because of the associations, 
> > > > > > > > > > > but it's actually a higher octave of our true nature. 
> > > > > > > > > > > It's the part of our being that is at one with The Divine 
> > > > > > > > > > > The Unified Field of All Nature, that expresses 
> > > > > > > > > > > unconditional love for all people and all things, and yes 
> > > > > > > > > > > including those who harm us, that is pouring forth more 
> > > > > > > > > > > soul into manifest form.  
> > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Christ's the dimension of us that is incarnating more 
> > > > > > > > > > > > Godliness into this planet, even if we don't believe in 
> > > > > > > > > > > > God.  It's Physics and it's Reality. 
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > Meditators for Christ!
> > > > > > > > > > > > By Christ!
> > > > > > > > > > > > Come to Meditation,
> > > > > > > > > > > > -Buck in the Dome
> > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, "Jason" 
> > > > > > > > > > > > <jedi_spock@> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---  Share Long <sharelong60@> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hey salyavin, according to the Catholic Church of 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > my youth, once a person is baptised they have 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > what is called, an indelible mark on the soul 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > showing that.  If I remember correctly, the 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > other sacraments that leave indelible marks are 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Confirmation and Holy Orders.  So in this sense 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > one is never really even an ex Catholic.  I * 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > left the Church * when I was 17.  In the 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > beginning I thought of myself as an ex or lapsed 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Catholic.  But that label has dropped from my 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > thinking as time goes by.  And sometimes for 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > family events, I still attend Mass and 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Communion.  I admit this probably horrifies me 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > half sister who has been a devout Catholic.  
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > OTOH she did ask me to be godmother for her 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > youngest so maybe not (-:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > ---  "salyavin808" <fintlewoodlewix@> wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Interesting. That's quite a load to put on someone 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > methinks. I wasn't
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > even christened and so have no deep early 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > programming to make me feel
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > part of any church but an indelible mark, that's 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > heavy!
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I hate it when I hear people say they were born 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Jewish or Muslim or
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > whatever because they weren't. We are all born 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > scientists, curious
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > and open minded but the adult world seems to be in 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > a race to beat
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > that out of us and as soon as we are set in our 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ways the poison gets
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > passed on. My parents were really cool about things 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > like that
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > and it took me a long time to notice. I Should 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > thank them for being
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > so irreligious but still very moral.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I really don't like the word seeker and humanist 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > sounds a little dry.  I've read books etc. in 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > which people use the phrase spiritual but not 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > religious.  But even the word spiritual 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > doesn't sound encompassing enough to me now.  
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Does that make any sense?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't like anything that sounds new-agey like 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > seeker either,
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > because I'm not really. I used to be a determined 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > "finder" as
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I refered to having discovered TM but I'm a bit 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > more agnostic now.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Same with spiritual as it it sounds like being 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > involved in something
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > that isn't actually real in the sense that there is 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > some sort of
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > extra realm to be discovered, when it seems to me 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > that all I'm
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > doing is refining how I see this one. And even then 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > I don't see how 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > we ever see anything other than what our head 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > machinery can cope
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > with in a mechanical sense and we've got evolution 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > to thank for
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > that. I'm the most materialist meditator I ever 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > met...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > You are not a materialist.  You are a dialectical 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > rationalist and an eclectical scientist.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Some religionists are also highly materialistic.  
> > > > > > > > > > > > > Some 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > atheists are also highly spiritual.  The two are not 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > mutually exclusive.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > How about devoted Earthling?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Like it. Sounds like an acceptance of reality with 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > an intention
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > to make the most of what we've got.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > >   
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ________________________________
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >  From: salyavin808 <fintlewoodlewix@>
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To: mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent: Monday, April 29, 2013 1:12 PM
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Getting Groovy at 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > the Godless Church.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "Buck" wrote:
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That is interesting.  Lot like the primitive 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quaker meeting.  Like the Sunday Quaker 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > meeting we have in Fairfield.  Very high 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > spiritual group gathering but not religious 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in the sense of iron age mythology.   Very 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > contemporary.
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Interesting how something fills a need that we 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > all have, whether it's
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > religious or not doesn't seem to matter. When 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > they start reading
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Richard Dawkins lectures and saying 'all praise 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > to DNA' at the end is when I'll start to think 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > it's odd...
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Polling shows that ex-Catholics are the third 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > largest religious group in the United States. 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What do they call themselves now then?
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://articles.washingtonpost.com/2013-04-24/national/38776675_1_communion-body-and-blood-catholic-church
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