--- In [email protected], "markmeredith2002" 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
<snip>
> > And to go back to an earlier topic, why was the Cosmo
> > nude centerfold of Burt Reynolds such a sensation when
> > it was first published?  Why was he vilified for it in
> > many quarters?
> 
> > We've come a long way, baby, since then, but not far
> > enough.
> 
> There are a growing number of feminist writers like paglia and 
> others who are much more accepting of female sexuality in all its 
> forms than the early more puritanical feminists.

I wasn't referring to the feminists, puritanical
or otherwise.  I don't recall any of them vilifying
Reynolds, although I may have missed it.  The outcry
I meant was from traditionalists who were threatened
by the notion that women were sexual beings and that
men could ever be seen as sex objects.

> I think there's a lot of
> unhealthy puritanism in the eastern spiritual trip as well.

I agree.

> In short I'm all for fighting the sexual exploitation of women but
> don't want to support the sexual neutrality, the lack of sexual
> polarity and shakti that you tend to see many spiritual circles.

Good for you.

The initial stance of *some* (by no means all)
feminists was at the far end of the pendulum
swing, sort of a Lysistrata effect: things are
*so* screwed up we need to remove sexuality from
the equation altogether.

But that didn't fly, exactly because women *are*
sexual beings; and most have a sexual preference
for men, so lesbianism wasn't an option for them.

The swings of the pendulum are gradually becoming
less extreme, but it hasn't come to rest yet in
anything like a state of balance.






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