--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <authfriend@...> wrote: > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" <fintlewoodlewix@> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <authfriend@> wrote: > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" <fintlewoodlewix@> > > > wrote: > > > (snip) > > > > It has been more than adequately demonstrated that a bunch of > > > > guys with planks can make even the most complicated mathematically > > > > designed motiffs in the tiny amount of darkness you get midsummer > > > > in England. > > > > > > Documentation, pleez? > > > > It was an hour long BBC documentary (I've been trying to find it) > > I think in the Horizon strand. > > > > Basically, they got in touch with a group of crop circle makers > > and asked to film them but doing a design as complex as they can > > get and in one summer night. Good enough controls really, if you > > want to test whether there is anything men with planks can't do. > > Let me know if you find it. I'm skeptical about "as complex > as they can get."
The brief was to design something as complex as had been seen already *and* to make it as hard as possible to organise on the ground at night with a few guys. > > So the BBC got a mathematician to design a stupidly difficult > > pictogram and off they went with a rope, a few planks and a muted torch and > > in a few hours they were done. And it was good, very > > convincing. And, as I say, I was amazed that was all the tech they > > had! > > > > It seems to me that if they can do it then others can and any > > supernatural explanation becomes unnecessary. Unless there is > > any truth that circles have been seen appearing in a few minutes, > > which I doubt. Or any other radiation type weirdness, but paranormal > > events have a sad history of people not knowing what they are > > doing with measuring technology and gaining false results, so it's > > best left to the experts. > > There actually is a bunch of real experts working on > this stuff. I look forward to the report. > > Trouble is, the experts all think that as people can do tough > > designs with a plank in a few hours there is no need to drag > > expensive sensing gear out to the middle of nowhere to measure > > wheat stalks. Hey ho. > > Well, right, but it's not just measuring wheat stalks; > and as I say, there are real scientists looking at all > the various ancillary phenomena. If you haven't debunked > *all* of it--shown you can get all the weird results by > ordinary means--you haven't really debunked it at all. If there is anything else, sure. > I am *not* a "Believer," BTW. I just don't think it's > been settled yet. >