--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> I think most of his confusion, regarding the context and meaning of spiritual 
> terms, came from Lenz, who from what I can see, made many ridiculous claims 
> for his own consciousness.
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, nablusoss1008 <no_reply@> wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ <no_reply@> wrote:
> > > "As Xeno says so often in different ways, you already *are* your 
> > > enlightenment. The only trick is realizing it."
> > > 
> > > That is about as profound as saying we are all billionaires. The only 
> > > trick is remembering the bank account number. It is a feel good phrase 
> > > for those like you who are very far from the goal. So, they decide, hey, 
> > > there's no work to do, I am already enlightened, along with everyone 
> > > else! 

The real function of a statement like 'you are already enlightened' is not to 
discourage, but to spike curiosity as to what it signifies, since obviously if 
it does not click with you at a certain point in your life, it sounds funny, 
absurd. Its real purpose is to provide the mind with either a trigger if the 
time is right to wake up, or to provide the intellect with an understanding 
after the fact if in fact you do wake up. Then the experience, which could be 
rather jarring when it blows you out of the water, won't be so disconcerting. 
You find statements like this in a number of traditions. Some people also do 
not have a sudden, jarring awakening, they just kind of slide into it. 
Awakening is a realisation, not a state. Like finding your keys in your pocket 
after having searched everywhere else for them for hours.
 
> > > Mood making.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > I guess it feels comforting for someone like the Turq being too lazy go 
> > gain an inch on any spiritual path to say "why bother about enlightenment, 
> > I'm already enlightened so I contiune my materialistic, shallow, hedonistic 
> > lifestyle as before" 
> > 
> > He probably got this nonsense from some Llama fellow :-)
> >
>


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