--- Vaj <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Good morning Akasha: No I was giving my overall impression merely based on my own life experience. No I'm not a sociologist with a clipboard, nor was or am I looking for endless argument, just discussion. .... > > Hi Akasha: > > Well not struggle. In every case of my own I was going on someone elses insistence, even to the point one time of paying the 50 USD cover charge...<sigh> > > It would be an almost hilarious view of the world, if it wasn't so sad and pathetic. Is this what relationships were meant to be? If so this was the Swanson TV Dinner type of relationship, sans microwave. Reciprocity was all based on money. Made me wonder what type relationships this people had. Were they in a relationship? If so, what did their partner think of all this? > > Interestingly Barry transformed his situation into one where there was a relationship in both directions. For me, that would be a very constructive transformation. > > Like I said, I don't feel any great need to argue and convince you of what are my impressions, this is (or *was*) a discussion, not a debate or argument. I would hope that you could find your own answers which are what we ultimately all have to do. -------------- Hi Vaj I apologize. I seem to have gotten off on the wrong foot. I am all for discussion. And sharing impressions and views. I am also intrigued by some of the issues in this thread and feel they have not been fully uncovered or analyzed. Thus when various POVs arise, I try to determine how solid it is. That is, I try to determine if it opinion, some limited observation -- or more of a claim towards universality. I had mistaken your points for the latter. Perhps by tone, or my misinterpretation of such. This sparked me to try to uncover the roots of such a claim, and to understand them. And my nature is that I can be a bit persistent when there are unresolved issues. I am not arguing any particular POV. Though I may try to understand an issue by asking a lot of questions from one perspective -- later from another. The goal is to help bring out knowledge and insight. To deepen the inquiry. I know it can come across as combative and obstinate sometimes, and I should work on tone and building context in my inquireous zeal. And I do feel there may be links to SCs and the global sex trade. And gender power issues. My pressing of these issues was to try to pull out whatever insights and information you had in this area. Sorry if I sometimes seem like a dentist extracting a tooth without giving novacaine. Akasha ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/