--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson <mjackson74@...> wrote: > > Man oh man - I missed all that - by all that I mean the TM money making ploy > to send shills to rounding courses to drain course participants money from > their pockets whilst rounding - so much for "don't make decisions when > rounding" - what a bunch of hood-winking bastards they were and are - and yes > that includes Marshy himself, the penultimate side show barker - the P.T. > Barnum of vedic vibes.
Remember, "penultimate" means second to last. Everyone gets that confused because it sounds like penultimate should be the ultimate ultimate. Maybe somebody needs to change the meaning. Who's in charge of that sort of thing? > > > > > ________________________________ > From: salyavin808 <fintlewoodlewix@...> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Monday, June 10, 2013 10:28 AM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ann's astrological analysis > > > >  > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson <mjackson74@> wrote: > > > > What a great story! Do you remember how many quid she had to put up for the > > session? Was it an official Marshy Jyotish reading or was he just Marshy's > > fav and therefore got a lot of TM business? > > I don't remember how much it was, it only cost me a cup of tea > and a straight face, but judged in terms of accurate results, > very expensive indeed. But you never know I might get enlightened > and win loads of money still, if I do I will doff my cap to > Jupiter. > > We were on a big course and international were sending all sorts > of people down to rip us off - sorry tempt us with vedic wonders - > and it was not long after the jyotishee that the vedaland PR guy > came for a visit and gave us his "once in a lifetime opportunity" > pitch. > > But he was Marshy's fave astrologer and everyone on the course > was excited until I started pointing out inconvenient facts like > he was telling everyone the same thing. As we all have the same > basic needs I got the impression his job was to tell us what we > wanted to hear with a few warnings about being nicer to people > etc. Which seems a good summation of how it all works anyway. > But I want it to be true. > > I heard a quote from Marshy about astrology that I liked: > > "Everything is set, but everything that's set can be reset" > > Marvellous. > > > ________________________________ > > From: salyavin808 <fintlewoodlewix@> > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Sunday, June 9, 2013 4:58 PM > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ann's astrological analysis > > > > > > > > à> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson <mjackson74@> wrote: > > > > > > I have known some TM'ers who have been told by jyotish-eeees there in > > > Fairfield that they have the "yoga" for enlightenment - they are even > > > told what year enlightenment will strike - they are among the most > > > un-enlightened people I have known. They are also told their health > > > problems will clear up and they are among the sickest people I have > > > known. > > > > Ha ha, I've had all that as well. > > > > My only trip to a jyotishee was when a girlfriend wanted a > > compatability chart done and offered to pay ( I refused to > > hand any cash over - which could maybe have told her something > > important about me) > > > > I reasoned that if she didn't know if we were suitable how > > the hell would Jupiter? But she went ahead and got my chart read > > and it was crap, I'm going to get enlightened and win loads of > > money and me and this girl would stay together forever yada yada. > > This guy was supposed to be Marshy's favourite jyotishee and it > > was the usual load of vague crap that could apply to anyone. > > Except for me winning loads of money - that's going to come true > > this week I'm certain. > > > > I never saw the girl again either. Bloody planets, you can't > > trust them.... > > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: turquoiseb <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > Sent: Sunday, June 9, 2013 3:31 PM > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Ann's astrological analysis > > > > > > > > > > > > Ãâà> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808" <fintlewoodlewix@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "emptybill" <emptybill@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hey! FF-Lifers ... > > > > > > > > > > Wake up and clarify yer data. Tula lagna or Libra rising? Western > > > > > or Jyotish charts? > > > > > > > > When I was born there were some stars a long, long way off and > > > > some planets in the same place they always are, just going > > > > round the sun, same for you and me and everyone that ever lived. > > > > > > > > But it's OK to pretend the Earth is the centre of the solar > > > > system and the stars are actually connected in some way in their > > > > constellations and that astrological "houses" are real and that > > > > it all means something (*anything*) to our lives depending on > > > > what time we were born. > > > > > > > > But then I've got "my" moon in capricorn so I'm bound to be > > > > sceptical.... > > > > > > I have my moon in Fresno and gall rising, so I guess > > > that accounts for me, too. :-) > > > > > > Seriously, the reason I made my snippy phrenology > > > comment is that THAT is how this whole discussion > > > strikes me. Really. > > > > > > I bailed from the TMO *long* before Jyotish or any > > > other form of astrology got the "thumbs up" from the > > > Rish. Therefore I never invested more than a few > > > minutes of my time in examining it as if it were > > > a rational system. > > > > > > I honestly believe that -- to some extent - the > > > degree to which people defend astrology (of any form) > > > on this forum depends to some extent on that very > > > *investment* I mention above. They were told it was > > > meaningful, and so they dived into it and learned > > > about it (as much as one *can* learn about a total > > > pseudoscience), and the more time and energy they > > > invested in it, the more they became "defenders" > > > of astrology. > > > > > > In other words, it's the same phenomenon we see in > > > TMers who still defend Maharishi. > > > > > > "*I* spent a lot of time and energy on this, and *I* > > > could not possibly have been wrong or deluded or > > > taken in, so therefore it *has* to have merit." > > > > > > Astrology strikes me now -- and always has -- as a > > > pseudoscience aimed at those who believe that the > > > infinite complexity of human behavior can be explained > > > by a simplistic system. > > > > > > I give humans -- and Nature -- far more credit than to > > > be able to believe that. > > > > > >
