turq, IMO whether or not one views the Gita or Maharishi or Maharishi's commentary on the Gita or anyone or any source as valuable is healthiest if based on one's own experience of its having been beneficial for one in the past. This is what makes some one or some source valuable to me though I don't think of such as an authority or authoritative.
Rather than give you the Gita definition of dharma, I'll say that for me dharma is the zone, as in when athletes or surgeons or dancers or computer programmers or violinists or women giving birth or lovers or writers or anyone is in the flow of an activity. Dharma is that which gives rise to this feeling of flow, of resonance, of utter harmony with one's surroundings and one's activity. Yes, you're welcome and I'd love to hear definitions of dharma from others, either from himself or herself or from teachers they like. ________________________________ From: turquoiseb <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 14, 2013 1:23 PM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: someone who understands M.E. Just as a question, what exactly is it that makes either Maharishi or the Bhagavad-Gita an "authority," one whose opinion should be valued or followed as if it were "truth?" While we're at it, since both of you are talking about "dharma" as if it were a Done Deal, and you understand what it is, what is it? Define "dharma" for us. If you can't, please tell us who or what you believe IS capable of defining "dharma," and telling someone whether their actions are either in accord with it or not in accord with it. And follow up by telling us why you believe this "who" or "what" should be regarded as an "authority." Thanks in advance... --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long <sharelong60@...> wrote: > > Mike I think Maharishi says better one's own dharma > than the dharma of another though higher. The dharma > of another brings danger. > ________________________________ > From: Mike Dixon <mdixon.6569@...> > To: "FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com" <FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com> > Sent: Friday, June 14, 2013 12:45 PM > Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] Re: someone who understands M.E. > > Be true to your dharma. You don't have to become a > Hindu, Buddhist or anything you weren't born as to > enjoy it. Doesn't M say in the Gita, better to > observe your own dharma poorly, than someone > elses, well? > > From: Buck <dhamiltony2k5@...> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Friday, June 14, 2013 6:17 AM > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: someone who understands M.E. > >  > Anywhere, anytime, anybody who is looking for this knowledge must get it, > because the Absolute is not for a single race, colour, creed or nation. > --Swami Shantanand Saraswati > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Scientific research shows that even small groups of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > people meditating (as little as the square root of > > > > > > > > > > > > > > one percent of the population) can quietly > > > > > > > > > > > > > > transform trends in society from conflict and > > > > > > > > > > > > > > enmity to peace and cooperation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, the Meissner Effect > > --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Origins of the ME > > > > > and the TM western millenarian movement: > > > > > > > > > > "There is a much better way of helping others. It is not to have the > > > > > desire as such but to meditate so purely that there is such a wealth > > > > > of goodness in the individual that anyone who is in need can come and > > > > > get it naturally. In this way it will be abundantly available to > > > > > everyone, very much like the sun which does not direct its light to > > > > > any single place, but anyone > who wants to have help or light from the sun can take it. So the better way > is to have finer energy or more Sattva in oneself; this can be used by > anybody who needs it." > > > > > > > > > > --Swami Shantanand Saraswati > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote > > > > Source: > > > > book in LB Shriver's reading library, > > > > > > > > Good Company > > > > An Anthology of > > > > sayings, stories, and > > > > answers to questions of > > > > His Holiness Shantanand Saraswati > > > > [Shankaracharya of Jyotir Math] > > > > The Luminary who followed Guru Dev Swami Brahmananda Saraswati > > > > as Shankaracharya. > > > > > > > > Do See FFL post #345760 > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/345760 > > > > to get the flow of the ME in modern spiritual regeneration. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In mailto:FairfieldLife%40yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon > > > > > > <mdixon.6569@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I guess you could also call it(M.E.) the Abraham effect. Read the > > > > > > > story of Sodom and Glocca Morra. Abraham asks God how many > > > > > > > righteous souls it would take for him not to destroy the cities > > > > > > > of the plains. He bargains with God from about fifty down to > > > > > > > about ten. Once the number of righteous drops below a certain > > > > > > > point, God will not guarantee their safety from His wrath. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, the Millenarian Effect > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, it is TM Millenarianism: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yup, it's revolutionary and we're TM revolutionaries > > > > > > > > > > > > doing it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, belief in a coming ideal society and especially > > > > > > > > > > > > > one created by revolutionary action. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > A MME, Meissner Millenarian Effect. ***see Fairfieldlife message 343576, > > > heaven on earth: > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/343576 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Scientific research shows that even small groups > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of people  meditating (as little as the square > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > root of one percent of the population) can > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > quietly transform trends in society from conflict > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > and enmity > to peace and cooperation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, the Meissner Effect > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yep, The modern spiritual regeneration movement started > > > > > > > > > > > as a ME with Guru Dev, Swami Brahmananda Saraswati held > > > > > > > > > > > that huge group puja in India that brought an end to > > > > > > > > > > > World War II. It was a cover story on Life magazine. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yes, and we are the soldiers of the ME Scientific Spiritual > > > > > > > > > > Regeneration bringing revolution to all. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Brothers and Sisters, "Give thanks to the Unified Field for > > > > > > > > > It is good; for It's steadfast love endures for ever. Let all > > > > > > > > > of humanity say: 'It's steadfast love endures for ever'" > > > > > > > > > -Buck > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > That land of Bliss and > > > > > > > > Glory exists above us, > > > > > > > > under us, around us, > > > > > > > > > within us, without us, if > > > > > > > > we open our eyes to see, > > > > > > > > The Unified Field. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is true, > > > > > > > The Transcendental Movement > > > > > > > Is A Revolutionary Millenarianism > > > > > > > To Affect a Heaven on Earth. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Knowledge is unlimited and available at all times. It manifests itself > > according to the need of the time. It is only available when the need > > arises. The stream of love and truth is one, but man catches it in two > > different ways, by heart or by mind. By heart he means his love, by mind he > > means his knowledge. But in fact the stream of > love and truth is always the same. It is always present in the world and > always will be present in the world but people will only take as much as > their destiny offers, or as they need. > > -Swami Shantanand Saraswati [Shankaracharya of Jyotir Math] > > >
