As the Global Country of World Peace exists only in the minds of those too 
blind to see Marshy's legacy for what it was, a scam, you are in danger of 
losing nothing and the extremism you speak of has existed for decades - it 
ain't gonna change now, Pappy.




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 From: Buck <dhamiltony...@yahoo.com>
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, June 15, 2013 10:12 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Repealing TM's  Anti-Saint Policies
 


  

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson <mjackson74@...> wrote:
>
> what you fail to take into consideration is that your Taliban-like leaders 
> took their cue from Marshy himself and that YEARS of TM, TMSP, rounding, and 
> being around Marshy has led them to this pass - draw - my suggestion is get 
> out before you waste anymore time, effort, energy and money. 
> 
>

Son, what I truly wish is for moderation to return to the Country of Global 
Peace. This is my only wish. Extremism pains me greatly. We have suffered many 
blows as a result of extremism.
-Buck

> 
> 
> Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Repealing TM's  Anti-Saint Policies
> 
> 
> 
>   
> 
> Repealing TM's  Anti-Saint Policies
> 
> Urgently "A  'repeal movement' is clearly needed now to save the TM movement. 
>  A repeal of the anti-saint policies if only to sustain a meditation group 
> for the Dome meditation numbers.  A meditation without fear.  The TM 
> movement's anti-saint policies have long bred hypocrisy and contempt for the 
> movement and its leadership inside and outside the meditating community.  We 
> need only look at the decades  long slide in numbers meditating or the Dome 
> meditation numbers.  They are down and it is an uphill fight to get numbers 
> back against the hard-heads on top.  Simply to save the Dome numbers 
> meditating there needs to come along a flat out repeal movement against these 
> Dome policies.  The Dome policies and guidelines have clearly failed to 
> sustain our numbers and it is time and has become our larger responsibility 
> to change those guidelines with repeal.  The Taliban-like leaders of the 
> movement with their anti-saint policies have made for a TM movement of
>  corruption, liars and hypocrites.  More than reforming, the time is come for 
> the repeal of the anti-saint polices to save the Dome meditating program; 
> Repeal now the anti-saint guidelines to save the Dome numbers.  The saints 
> are returning soon again.  It is a fact of life.  Repeal the TM-Anti-Saint 
> policies now to save the Domes before it is too late..  The time has come to 
> make your voice heard and join the Anti-Saint repeal movement for all our 
> benefit."
> 
> >
> > Repealing TM's anti-saint policies it seems has terribly strong parallels 
> > to the context of the 18th Amendment 'Repeal Movement' in the 20th Century. 
> >  Take a look at this short piece on Pauline Sabin of the movement to repeal 
> > the 18th amendment:  A theme of the undoing of the 'dry's' from early was 
> > their own self-destruct of unbending policies in the face of a reality.   
> > Sort of like TM's movement administration trying to restrict and prohibit 
> > its own people from visiting other saints and holy people and only relying 
> > on its own TM teachers and consultants.
> > 
> > As comparison critique this is a thought provoking documentary on Pauline 
> > Sabin and the movement to repeal the 18th Amendment, Have a look: 
> > 
> > 
> > http://www.wgbh.org/programs/Baseball-The-Tenth-Inning-1199/episodes/Women-of-PROHIBITION-Pauline-Sabin-34763
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Yeah, you say this NOW, now that it's come out that
> > > > > > > > he is married and has been for many years. But I wonder
> > > > > > > > what excuses you make for him lying about it for so long,
> > > > > > > > and to so many?
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > That is a really tough question. That could easily be someone's
> > scholarly thesis topic alone on Fairfield. How meditators have dealt with 
> > the
> > deceit and moral dissonance of their leadership. That became more directly
> > addressed in a series of posts by a range of old meditators writing on FFL
> > between Christmas and New Year's a month ago. It was really interesting to 
> > read
> > how different people resolved their relationship with the Tmo.
> > > > > > >
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck" wrote:
> > >
> > > Back then it seems the problems were more simply over the money, 
> > > fund-raising technique and the anti-saint policy that were driving people 
> > > away.
> > > 
> > > >
> > > > Even Back then there were yet some lot of 'unknowns' like the women to 
> > > > be discovered. 
> > > > 
> > > > > > Surveying the old [meditating] community,  The old survey that was 
> > > > > > done is archived here in the FFL files section.  It is real 
> > > > > > interesting trend-reading to look at now.  Things  were in motion 
> > > > > > then even back in the '90's and early '00's and yet still 
> > > > > > unresolved now.
> > > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > Look in the 'files' section under the folder "FFL and Fairfield 
> > > > > Community"  about surveys.  To be able to read the survey results 
> > > > > here you got to be a registered yahoo groups FFL member to open the 
> > > > > files.
> > > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Buck"  wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb  wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long  wrote:
> > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > I'm very glad that Rajaram is a householder. 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Are you glad that he lied about it to pretty much 
> > > > > > > > > everyone in the TM movement for many years, including
> > > > > > > > > his close friends like John Hagelin? 
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > > It makes the TMO more human somehow, more of the world 
> > > > > > > > > > with all its joys and sorrows, more connected to life 
> > > > > > > > > > with all its light and dark.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > Yeah, you say this NOW, now that it's come out that
> > > > > > > > > he is married and has been for many years. But I wonder
> > > > > > > > > what excuses you make for him lying about it for so long,
> > > > > > > > > and to so many?
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > That is a really tough question.  That could easily be 
> > > > > > > > someone's scholarly thesis topic alone on Fairfield.  How 
> > > > > > > > meditators have dealt with the deceit and moral dissonance of 
> > > > > > > > their leadership.  That became more directly addressed in a 
> > > > > > > > series of posts by a range of old meditators writing on FFL 
> > > > > > > > between Christmas and New Year's a month ago.  It was really 
> > > > > > > > interesting to read how different people resolved their 
> > > > > > > > relationship with the Tmo.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Surveying the [meditating] community.
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I'm betting there is at least one PhD thesis waiting to happen 
> > > > > > > around this [morality] topic or at least a scholarly paper.   It 
> > > > > > > would proly be timely anyway to have a new survey of this done 
> > > > > > > independently now for the benefit of the meditating community.   
> > > > > > > Back about 15 years ago some smart people created an independent 
> > > > > > > survey of the Fairfield meditating community then.  Seems 
> > > > > > > morality was the same problem then it is today with leadership..  
> > > > > > >   A  new survey enlarged around these topics of moral complexity 
> > > > > > > could be telling with some evident policy recommendations 
> > > > > > > particularly for how things are going now.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Surveying the old [meditating] community,  The old survey that was 
> > > > > > done is archived here in the FFL files section.  It is real 
> > > > > > interesting trend-reading to look at now.  Things  were in motion 
> > > > > > then even back in the '90's and early '00's and yet still 
> > > > > > unresolved now.
> > > > > >
> > > > > 
> > > > > Look in the 'files' section under the folder "FFL and Fairfield 
> > > > > Communty"  about surveys.  To be able to read the survey results here 
> > > > > you got to be a registered yahoo groups FFL member to open the files.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>


 

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