Xeno, fortunately we have experts like Mindsight author and UCLA prof of 
psychiatry Dr. Daniel J. Siegel who focus on treatment and brain based 
diagnosis. I'm not sure how helpful labels are, unless they are behavior based 
such as Overeaters Anonymous uses. I think one criticism of the recently 
published DSM5 is that labels can lead to over dependence on pharmaceutical 
interventions as long term treatments rather than as short term help with 
debilitating symptoms. And labels such as narcissistic sociopath IMO can be 
damaging in and of themselves. I mean really, what can a person do with such a 
label?! Ms. Thomas seems to be making the most of it with her blog and now her 
book. But even she has experienced mixed results with such self treatment and 
coping strategies.


She might do better with a little help from someone like Dr. Siegel who talks 
about mirror neurons and resonance circuits which include neural networks not 
only in the brain but also around the heart and 
throughout the whole body. In addition he has a toolbox of 
mindfulness techniques to help a person develop their brain in ways that have 
not yet happened for one reason 
or another. In her case I'd guess that those belt beatings by her father had 
some dire effect on her brain as well as on other parts of her body. What parts 
of her brain did she have to shut down to survive such treatment?

Mentioning the book below again as it addresses topics in the last part of your 
post:
http://www.sethhfarber.com/the_spiritual_gift_of_madness_the_failure_of_psychiatry_and_the_rise_of_the_mad__113226.htm


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 From: Xenophaneros Anartaxius <[email protected]>
To: [email protected] 
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 8:32 AM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Sure sounds like Robin to me...
 


  
--- In [email protected], Ravi Chivukula <chivukula.ravi@...> wrote:
>
> What's with this slander Barry - first it was Xeno and now you? This is
> totally malicious and completely uncalled for. You guys seriously need some
> help for your malicious, vindictive nature.
> 
> What threatens you guys so much - his intelligence? brilliance? loving
> sensitivity? maturity? wisdom?
> 
> Take your pick Barry baby.
> 
> On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 10:28 PM, turquoiseb <[email protected]>wrote:
> 
> > **
> > Except for the success / top-of-the-ladder thang.
> >
> > http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2013/06/25/how-to-spot-a-sociopath-hint-it-could-be-you.html
> >
>
Robin is intelligent and has a peculiar kind of brilliance - he may be 
sensitive, or could be faking it - he certainly shows certain aspects of 
maturity and has wisdom. But there is something essentially strange about him, 
and I think to some people, scary. I found his posts manipulative, very much so.

Ravi, it is very difficult to tell on a forum if anyone is threatened by 
anything, although that word is used frequently. Barry even uses it, though in 
Barry's case it is a lure with a thread attached, out of sight is a flexible 
pole with a reel. I tend to think that when you (and Judy) use the word 
'threaten', you are serious about it: correct me if I am wrong.

None of us here are exactly an 'average' person, but on a scale of averageness, 
Robin departs significantly from average, and some of those divergent traits at 
one time brought about his downfall. 

And why is he not on the forum now? Everybody here gets criticised - no way to 
escape it. Sociopaths get bored, always need to be doing something. That does 
not mean Robin is a true sociopath, but like me he shares some traits that 
could be sociopathic though we have a different mix. Things like meditation 
also develop traits that could be sociopathic as these practices may take one's 
sense of identity out of the conventional view that 'I am a person' and 'I am 
in a world much larger than myself' (and depending on the individual, such 
practices may fail to do this as well).

As one of the early posts on FFL stated concerning Robin, after his 
'enlightenment' things got very strange. There are numbers of people that 
learned TM for example, that cracked up in some way after learning the 
practice. Meditation techniques mess with your mind in ways that are not 
entirely predictable. If you are fortunate, after the screwy spiritual path 
part of life's journey, you may become more or less normal again.


 

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