I *told* you she'd "declare victory" over a "battle"
that was only going on inside her head, didn't I?

In this case, the *entire argument* was in her head.
I didn't care who said this, and Xeno didn't care who
said it. No one else even replied. 


--- In [email protected], "authfriend" <authfriend@...> wrote:
>
> Here's Barry's problem with the quote from the post
> of the Mystery Cultist, and why he's doing this 
> frantic little dance trying to talk *around* it:
> 
> Barry had insisted on Thursday that only a "diehard
> cultist" would attempt to excuse the "hitting" that
> Robin had owned up to in his Open Letter.
> 
> None of Robin's supporters has done that. Robin
> himself didn't do that.
> 
> But that's just what the Mystery Cultist *did* do.
> And that puts Barry in a very, very awkward spot,
> because the Mystery Cultist, as Barry has finally
> been forced to admit, was indeed Curtis, who hates
> Robin even more than Barry does.
> 
> There's no "argument" involved here, inside my
> head or anywhere else. Nobody is suggesting that
> Curtis was *right* to excuse the hitting,
> contrary to what Barry pretends in this post.
> 
> It's just great fun, as I knew it would be, to
> watch Barry wriggling and squirming in a futile
> attempt to avoid acknowledging yet *another* of
> his Big Booboos.
> 
> Even more fun is the fact that if Barry weren't
> so agitated at having to confront his error, he
> could have explained why Curtis, Robin's most
> vehement critic, did his best to excuse the
> hitting in a post that was otherwise harshly
> condemnatory of Robin.
> 
> I'll just leave Barry with that hint, see if he
> can get control of himself long enough to figure
> it out.
> 
> In the meantime, my thanks to Barry for performing
> exactly as I expected, like a trained seal. I'm
> sure *his* supporters, Steve and Xeno, are proud
> of him. ;-)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In [email protected], turquoiseb <no_reply@> wrote:
> >
> > This is worth commenting on, if for no other reason 
> > than it exemplifies another of the hallmark symptoms
> > of Narcissistic Personality Disorder.
> > 
> > One of the things that NPD individuals are known for
> > is their competitiveness, and their *need* to "win,"
> > at least in their own minds. So what they do is to
> > glom onto what they think is the "ultimate argument"
> > in favor of their all-important subjective view, and
> > then repeat it ad nauseum, *demanding* that people
> > respond to it. They're looking for the "win," and
> > can't *get past* this argument they think is so
> > devastating and convincing. 
> > 
> > In this case, how many times has Judy trotted out
> > this trollbait now -- six or seven times? She just
> > can't let it go. She's literally HAVING AN 
> > ARGUMENT INSIDE HER OWN HEAD. No one else 
> > has felt that it was worth their time dealing with
> > or respond to, especially the person she is still 
> > up at 2:00 a.m. in the morning trying to "defeat." 
> > 
> > But to her -- lost in an NPD inner world inside
> > her mind -- it's a real argument. And she's "winning,"
> > whether anyone ever responds to it or not. Classic
> > NPD. 
> > 
> > The thing is, it's even a *meaningless* argument. 
> > WHAT DOES IT MATTER what someone else said 
> > on this subject, or who said it?
> > 
> > Like many NPD sufferers, Judy is big on trotting out
> > some supposed "expert witness" (usually herself, 
> > and usually in cases where she has no direct exper-
> > ience with the subject she's declaring the "truth"
> > of), and feeling that this "settles things," and
> > is the Last Word on the subject. 
> > 
> > Who CARES who said this? It was probably Curtis,
> > because it's funny, and clearly partly tongue in
> > cheek. But if had been said by a Supreme Court 
> > Justice in a legal ruling, it *still* wouldn't
> > have any bearing on how I or anyone else views
> > Robin Carlsen, and judges him either harshly or
> > compassionately. We're adults, and get to make up
> > our *own* minds about such things.
> > 
> > Yet she'll keep harping on this "ultimate argument,"
> > trying to get someone -- anyone -- to respond to
> > it so that she can DECLARE VICTORY. 
> > 
> > How sad for her. Now we know why she lives alone
> > in New Jersey and is up this late still trying 
> > desperately to "win" an argument on the Internet.
> > As has been quipped, doing that is in itself a
> > lot like competing in the Special Olympics -- you
> > may win a medal, but you're still retarded. 
> > 
> > Judy will undoubtedly DECLARE VICTORY over this
> > imagined ultimate thrust in a swordfight that is
> > going on only in her own mind. Let us all hope
> > for her sake that her imagined "win" will allow 
> > her to finally get some sleep. 
> > 
> > 
> > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <authfriend@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Barry has made it clear that he thinks anyone who 
> > > didn't find Robin's having struck his students a
> > > Very Bad Thing was a "die-hard cultist," and he
> > > has claimed that Robin's supporters were such
> > > cultists because we had tried to defend Robin's
> > > hitting behavior.
> > > 
> > > Contrary to Barry's claim, only one person on
> > > FFL, in fact, has done that. Now, who could
> > > that be?
> > > 
> > > Here's what this Mystery Cultist said to Robin
> > > the morning after Robin posted his Open Letter
> > > in January 2012 (it's from the ninth paragraph
> > > of the post). I asked Barry whether he could
> > > identify the Cultist from the quote:
> > > 
> > > "There is plenty of compassion here for weird shit we
> > > all did in our past and this doesn't sound like such a
> > > big deal. There were a whole bunch of weird psychological
> > > 'breakthrough' cults that seem to be far worse than what
> > > you were running back then. If you weren't banging your
> > > disciples ten deep in Elvis' Graceland white panty
> > > parties, you come off as better than most people in your
> > > position of power over the entranced."
> > > 
> > > Barry hasn't said who he thinks the Mystery
> > > Cultist is. Either he really has no idea--which
> > > is strange, since he's so obsessed with the folks
> > > on FFL he thinks are cultists--or for some reason
> > > he's reluctant to say who it is.
> > > 
> > > I suspect it's the latter, myself.
> > > 
> > > Take a guess. Then check out this link to the post
> > > in question and see whether you agree with me that
> > > Barry would *really* prefer that the Mystery Cultist
> > > remain anonymous:
> > > 
> > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/302457
> > > 
> > > When I first posted this quote Thursday evening, BTW,
> > > I predicted that we would hear no more fulminating
> > > from Barry about "cultists" doing any "justifying" in
> > > connection with Robin's Open Letter.
> > > 
> > > I was right.
> > > 
> > > I'm going to make one more post--a repost of Robin's
> > > Open Letter itself--then I think this particular
> > > kerfuffle will be all wrapped up, and Barry will have
> > > to think of a new one.
> > >
> >
>


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