Ann, I think Susan makes some valid points in spite of her typos. And yes, I have been guilty of replying to more than one person in a post, as you did in your post mentioning this (-:
________________________________ From: Ann <awoelfleba...@yahoo.com> To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, July 5, 2013 8:40 AM Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Two for Xeno, one for Susan --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan" <wayback71@...> wrote: > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <authfriend@> wrote: > > > > First, Xeno's intellectual dishonesty in defense of Barry's > > shitting on Robin. > > > > Second, some comments on explaining Robin to those with a > > 15-year-old mentality. > > > > Finally, Susan's reading comprehension problems (among other > > difficulties). > > > snips of Judy to Xeno > > > > 348894 > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Susan" <wayback71@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "seventhray27" <steve.sundur@> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > wow! what a reaction. is this an extreme example of > > > > > shooting the messenger? don't even need a show of > > > > > hands for that. > > > > > > > > Now you understand why the person who sent the > > > > link to me in email didn't want to post it them- > > > > selves. > > > > > > > > Sure is good to see that the "enlightened" don't > > > > throw balls of shit like chimpanzees, eh? :-) > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorry, no street cred for you, little guy. Any student > > > > > > of human nature knows that you cannot first shit all > > > > > > over someone, as you have Robin, and then trot out some > > > > > > third party excerpt, trying to show your objectivity. > > > > > > Doc, are you kidding? I mean think about it - is Barry the > > > only person here on FFL that has "shit all over someone"? > > > > Susan, you need to think about it. DrD never said Barry > > was the only person here on FFL who has done that. > > Judy, you missed the point. You need to think about that. Of course I know > Dr D did not think Barry was the only person on FFL to shit all over someone. > That was my point and I knew DR had that awareness. I was merely pointing it > out to him. You missed the main oint, the gist, and focused on a detail with > no relevance to what we were talking about. > > > > > Several other people here seem to feel quite free and expert > > > in putting down other people and calling them names (I would > > > say Judy and Ravi are probably most skilled at name calling > > > and putdowns, and they do so frequently) > > > > Bit of a difference, Susan. I never do so *gratuitously*, > > and I never do it *dishonestly*. Plus which, I'll respond > > if someone wants to engage with what I say. I don't do hit- > > and-runs. Nor do I diagnose mental disorders in people I'm > > not on good terms with. > > However you want to characterize, or rather talk about the bad" things you > don't do, you ourself Judy manage to put down others frequently here. It may > be a bit of a difference in how you go about doing so, but you do, as you > know. > > > > > Barry certainly seems to think Robin was and probably is a > > > strange guy. No argument there. > > > > Nor is that the problem, as you know--or should. > > Of course, I did not say it was the problem and of course I know it is not. > I was summarizing the past relationship. You should know that. > > > > > Now, Barry posted something written by other people. My > > > take was that it was not focusing on Robin and his > > > personality and his diagnoses or problems; it was about > > > the events of that time as seen thru the theme of > > > spiritual movements and how they grow or split in factions > > > or dissolve. > > > > You apparently didn't bother to read Barry's post with > > any attention. The big deal for Barry was that the book > > excerpt appeared to contradict what Robin has said about > > his devotion to Maharishi. (There are problems with that > > conclusion, but I've addressed them briefly in another > > post.) > > > > > Robin, Shri Shri and Deepak were the players, along with MMY > > > and the TMO. Personally I thought it was interesting to get > > > an objective view of those years in the TMO. There were some > > > details about Robin's activities that I did not know about, > > > and it presented his concerns witht he TMO and how it had > > > changed for the worse. It was a rather clear summary from > > > one point of view. > > > > I have no problem with this precis. But then you go on > > to say: > > > > > I hardly consider that "shitting all over Robin." > > > > Susan, your reading comprehension ain't so good these > > days. DrD didn't say it was. Go read the quote from his > > post at the top, see if you can figure out where you > > went wrong. If not, I'll be happy to help. > > As you see below, my next post (jsut af ew minutes later) dealt with the > omission I made. My reading comprehension is just fine. Your typing skills in this post seem to be suffering a tad though. (I fyou no whati mean.) > > > > From another post, 348899: > > > > > And I meant to add, neither do I consider Barry's past posts > > > about Robin to be "shitting all over him." > > > > Apparently you've read very few of them, then. They've > > been about as nasty as it gets around here: gratuitous > > and dishonest and vicious and insulting and repellent > > in the extreme. > > > > > But then I too found Robin's writings odd and uncomfortable > > > to follow. > > > > So that excuses Barry's unpleasantness toward Robin? > > > > What are you trying to say here? > I am saying what I said. Apparently it is not what you want to hear, so you > find ways to - in your own mind- devalue it. Vintage, Judy. > > > > > He appears to be extremely intelligent. And it is not that > > > his posts were intellectually impossible to get, but that > > > his whole style and switching of topics and use of words > > > made me feel as if I was being manipulated (that is the best > > > I can put it, and I did so directly to Robin from day 1). > > > > You sure don't put it very well, Susan. It doesn't make > > much sense. I strongly suspect it's a hangover from your > > TMO days when you were *told* negative things about Robin > > that you accepted without question, and you're just > > parroting them back, assuming he hasn't changed. > > > > Maybe you should look at whether you have an unwarranted > > fear of being manipulated that arises in the presence > > (electronic, in this case) of someone you feel is > > considerably more intelligent than you are. > > Have you ever met or talked with Robin in person, Judy? What is the hook for > you? Just wondering why you are so enmeshed in this? > > > > Do you remember Robin's response when you told him you > > felt you were being manipulated? He basically said that > > he wasn't entirely sure what you were getting at, but: > > > > "It's one of those moments where one senses: Hey, this > > guy [Wayback] is having an innocent experience, and that > > experience hints at SOMETHING potentially at least, > > problematic about what you are saying, MZ." > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/message/280403 > > >