--- In [email protected], TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> --- In [email protected], off_world_beings 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > --- In [email protected], cardemaister 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > > --- In [email protected], off_world_beings 
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > wrote:
> > > > Can you repeat the question in more detail.
> > > > I have the answer.
> > > 
> > > What is it that's "uncertain" in Heisenberg's Uncertainty
> > > Principle? 
> > 
> > 
> > Before you do the experiment, the position, direction, and spin 
of 
> > the particle cannot be known because it is only when the observer 
> > observes the atom that it has the characteristics you observe. 
> > In other words, it really was not a particle until it is 
> concretized 
> > by an observation, and the observer had a part in it's 
> > state/creation. It was really just a potential in the field, and 
it 
> > had infinite possible trajecteries and spin, but it cannot be 
known 
> > ahead of time which it would take. It is uncertain.
> > Only after observation can one see which trajectory it took. It 
> > could take any. 
> > Even after it is observed, one cannot really say it is a concrete 
> > item. It is really a wave with no real boundaries within the 
quantum
> > ocean that it arises from. Therefore, the characteristics of the 
> > universe are dependent on the characteristics of the observer, 
(as 
> > Maharishi has stated).
> 
> Well done.  Just as a question, what does this principle
> have to say about multiple observers?  What does the
> potential do when suddenly observed simultaneously by
> two different observers?  Are there two waves, one for
> each observer, or is there only one, some kind of com-
> posite wave, generated by the combined influence of 
> the two observers?

Simultaenaity is impossible.




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