--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson <mjackson74@> wrote:
> >
> > Its just part of life for a lot of people here. My old 
> > man used to keep a loaded .357 Magnum on his bureau. 
> > We never shot nobody with it though. 
> 
> It's an incredible blind spot for many people. Their
> whole "American mythos" keeps them from noticing it
> and how insane it is. Unless you live in "bear country"
> (the only North American animal that would require a 
> .357 magnum to take it down), the *only* reason to 
> own a gun like that is to *kill people*.
>
Fuk you Barry, Rama was a Black Belt ~ he could take 
You down easy.

> I think I've mentioned here a friend from Santa Fe who
> is a classic example of this "blind spot." In person
> he's just the nicest guy in the world -- a talented 
> guitarist and folk singer, loving father and husband,
> etc. He *does* have a tendency to get monotopical about
> Libertarianism, which is why I have had to block his
> posts on some forums we share. He was also a Divinity
> student in his youth, and almost became a preacher. 
> 
> But he owns over forty (40) guns. Some of them have 
> been converted to full auto. In fact, he has over half
> of them wrapped in oilcloth and buried in a trunk some-
> where secret, in preparation for the day when "The
> guvmint will come to get my other guns." Go figure. 
> 
> > ________________________________
> >  From: salyavin808 <fintlewoodlewix@>
> > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 17, 2013 6:02 AM
> > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Trayvon Martin was a Homophobic bigot
> >  
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, turquoiseb <no_reply@> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "salyavin808"  wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Has *anyone* in America stopped to ponder whether the problem
> > > > here is easy availability of guns rather than race or whatever
> > > problems?
> > > >
> > > > Seems likely that if you couldn't get hold of 9mm pistols at the
> > > > corner shop this situation might have amounted to a bit of arguing
> > > > and not much more. When everyone is scared that everyone else is
> > > > armed people are bound to be be a bit spikier.
> > > >
> > > > I hear they have armed guards at primary schools now. What the
> > > > fuck is wrong with your country?
> > > 
> > > It's a kind of collective "me first" insanity, bred of seeing too
> > > many cowboy/cop movies, believing in too many of America's
> > > myths, and never having been exposed to other, more civilized
> > > countries and societies.
> > > 
> > > The Bureau of Consular Affairs now *brags* that a "record
> > > number of Americans now hold passports." That "record number"
> > > is slightly over 33%. Admittedly, that is WAY up from only a few
> > > years ago, when only 8% of Americans held passports (and thus
> > > were even *able* to see what life was like in other countries),
> > > but now you need a passport to even go to Canada or Mexico,
> > > so that accounts for much of the increase. (You don't need a
> > > US passport to get *into* either Canada or Mexico, BTW...you
> > > need one to get back into your own country...that's the kind of
> > > insular mentality that America lives with these days.)
> > > 
> > > Americans -- for the most part -- have never had the experience
> > > of being able to walk safely after dark almost *anywhere*, as I
> > > have done in France, in Spain, in the Netherlands, and in many
> > > other countries in the years since I kissed America goodbye. They
> > > don't know what it *feels* like to live in a society in which random
> > > violence is not an ever-present possibility.
> > > 
> > > And they actually *believe* that totin' a gun will make them safer.
> > > The facts are somewhat different. The states with the highest gun
> > > ownership have a gun murder rate 114% higher than those with
> > > the lowest gun ownership. The number of mass shootings stopped
> > > by gun-toting civilians in the last thirty years is ZERO. For every
> > > time a gun is used in self-defense in the home, there are 7 assaults
> > > or murders, 11 suicide attempts, and 4 accidents involving guns
> > > in or around the home. 43% of homes with guns and kids leave
> > > their guns unlocked, and in one experiment, 1/3 of 8-12-year-old
> > > kids who found a handgun pulled the trigger.
> > 
> > Very interesting.
> > 
> > I saw a shocking documentary about the youngest kid in jail in
> > the US for life without parole (12) after he helped a friend kill
> > his stepdad. What a waste of lives but amidst all the handwringing from 
> > police, neighbours and family, *not one* person stopped to
> > wonder whether keeping two loaded pistols in an unlocked kitchen drawer was 
> > a bad idea. It's like some weird blind spot that was 
> > so taken for granted it wasn't even considered. It's just what 
> > they all do.
> > 
> > I wonder how England would be if guns were freely available?
> > We like to import everything else from the US: TV, shit food,
> > unfair business practises etc. So why not a liberal attitude
> > to weapons of mass destruction, how long would it take before
> > we're popping caps like it's some sort of solution?
> > 
> > Or would we be like Canada which, as I understand it, has
> > as many guns per person as the US but a much lower murder
> > rate?
> > 
> > > In 2011, nearly 10 times more people were shot and killed in argu-
> > > ments than by civilians trying to stop a crime. One study found
> > > that the odds of an assault victim being shot were 4.5X greater
> > > if he carried a gun, and his odds of being killed were 4.2X greater.
> > > 
> > > http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/01/pro-gun-myths-fact-check
> > > <http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/01/pro-gun-myths-fact-check>
> > > 
> > > The last time I was in America (back in Santa Fe to renew
> > > documents), out of curiosity I dropped in to a local gun show.
> > > I was offered handguns, rifles, shotguns, and in four cases
> > > semi-automatic rifles that had been converted to full automatic
> > > (e.g., machine guns) *over the counter*. I would have had to
> > > show no ID, and no "background checks" would have been
> > > performed. If I had bought them, I would have walked out of
> > > the show fully equipped to become a mass murderer, requiring
> > > only a short stop at Walmart to stock up on ammo first.
> > 
> > Unbelievable. To me. 
> > 
> > > America is not only an insane asylum, its inmates are armed.
> > 
> > I blame this constitution thing...
> > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Mike Dixon mdixon.6569@ wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Looks like a new version of the Trayvon/Zimmerman encounter is
> > > developing, see Drudge Report. Seems that on the Pierce Morgan Show last
> > > night that Rachel Jeantel reported that race had nothing to do with the
> > > encounter . She said that she and Trayvon thought Zimmerman might be a
> > > *rapist*, a homosexual rapist at that and that's why Trayvon was
> > > Creeped-out by Zimmerman following him. He didn't want Zimmerman
> > > following him to his home because his little brother was there and
> > > might... It's looking more like Trayvon intended to give Zimmerman the
> > > Mathew Shepherd treatment. Martin intended to beat the snot out of the
> > > *fagot* that was stalking him. Zimmerman took a pounding for 45 seconds
> > > and then fired in self defense. In short, Trayvon's homophobia killed
> > > him.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>


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