--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" 
<anartaxius@...> wrote:
(snip)
> I found the following on Wikipedia
> 
> 'Some psychoanalysts and writers make a distinction between
> "healthy narcissism" and "unhealthy narcissism"...the healthy
> narcissist being someone who has a real sense of self-esteem
> that can enable them to leave their imprint on the world, but
> who can also share in the emotional life of others.'
> 
> From my perspective, if you have narcissistic traits as has
> been implied here, this would seem to be the kind narcissism
> that you would have, that is, basically what normal people
> have. You seem to have a well balanced confidence. But having
> read about this particular subject a bit now, I do think that
> your tagging Robin with the label NPD seems to be in the
> ballpark, and that your initial response to him here was dead
> on; I don't think he ever recovered from that.

As Stupid Sal was wont to say, this would be funny if it
weren't so sad. Or, alternatively, this would be sad if
it weren't so funny.

But you're right, Robin never did get over the extreme
inadvertent irony of Barry projecting his own unhealthy
narcissistic traits onto Robin. He thought it was hilarious.

Assuming one is familiar with both Barry's and Robin's
posts, if one looks, as a nonprofessional, at the lists
of supposed narcissistic traits--without attempting to
make a diagnosis of any kind, mind you--it's almost
absurdly obvious that Barry has those traits in spades,
whereas Robin does not.

> There is something else I think I have noticed in the two
> years I have been on FFL. Do you experience the tendency
> to reference your past in interacting with others dropping
> off?

Haven't you noticed how often in the past two weeks or
so Barry has referenced a previous interaction with me,
insisting that I respond once again to accusations he's
made more times than I can count since the interaction
first took place?

> There are situations where we do have to do that,

That wasn't the case with the example I gave above. It
was entirely gratuitous.

> but I have noticed it is getting significantly harder as
> time goes on to think about what happened before NOW, and
> it seems in your writing, that tendency is falling away.

Didn't seem to be at all difficult for Barry to obsess
over this past interaction with me. And not just that
one, either, that's just the most extreme recent example.

You might want to do a search for the term "death threat"
in Barry's posts in the past two years. It's appeared 45
times, an average of almost twice a month. (That also
references a past interaction of Barry's with me.)

In fact, I'd say Barry's always-strong tendency to
reference his past interactions with his critics has
been increasing in recent years. He's always done it
more than anyone else here, but it almost seems as if
it's gotten out of control lately.

It appears to me that he hauls out past interactions
so often because he doesn't have any solid legitimate
criticisms to make of his critics in his current 
diatribes, but he can *pretend* to have made some in
those past interactions, knowing nobody is going to go
look up the interactions and see whether he actually
did.

It seems to me, Xeno, that your problem is a decline
in your ability to notice things that don't conform to
whatever your perspective happens to be.

> This more a feeling about what is happening than explicitly
> what you write.

Mind-reading, you mean?

> PS
> A search on FFL for the word 'vicious':
> authfriend: 393
> turquoiseb:  88
> 
> This of course includes re-quotes from other posts. To bad we
> cannot search only original posted material.

Generally speaking, if you were to go through the posts,
I think you'd find that most of my original posts using
the term are references to posts of Barry's and of Barry's
allies. Most of the rest of us don't tend to write vicious
posts.


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