There is no guarantee that anybody gains freedom, or enlightenment, from 
anything they do. However, a purification of consciousness needs to take place, 
to at least entertain the possibility. It is not a matter of enlightenment 
having been here all along. Rather, it is culturing the ability, within 
ourselves, to recognize it, and become it.

--- In, "Xenophaneros Anartaxius" 
<anartaxius@...> wrote:
> I found this series of exchanges very informative. I wonder how many here 
> ever wonder whether moksha, satori, awakening, 'enlightenment', was ever 
> really necessary in the first place. All roads were always Rome from the 
> beginning. Why do we make such a big deal out of it? The payoff is 
> tautological.

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