Dude! WTF?! Glad to see you back, you particle, you!!! :-)
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" <rorygoff@...> wrote:
>
> I know we have had something much like this conversation before, Lawson, but
> everything spirals, doesn't it? So here we are again, for the first time!
>
> In my experience, anyhow, and that of most people I know well here in
> Fairfield, the criteria for CC are entirely lost in UC and especially BC,
> which though utterly indescribable is in many respects identical to
> ignorance. Duality doesn't really predominate. Separation vs. Unity is gone;
> inner vs. outer is gone; I vs. thou is gone; absolute vs. relative is gone;
> rest vs. activity is gone; suffering vs. ecstasy is gone; even permanence vs.
> impermanence is gone. In a sense, for true permanence to acknowledge itself,
> the addiction to growth through various states of consciousness is recognized
> for the illusion it is and transcended. To be timeless, we simply stop
> believing we are in any real sense subject to time.
>
> BC, our ordinary state of being, is a priori, and paradoxical, and can be
> quite confusing -- as it is and always has been the status quo, prior to the
> story-making faculty of the intellect itself -- and probably requires an
> intellectual AhA for the intellect to even recognize It, or Us. It is quite
> possible for someone to be "in" BC -- as we all really are, anyhow -- and not
> even acknowledge It or Us because one thinks one is still "losing" CC!
> Believing in the wave rather than the ocean, as It Is, or believing in the
> story rather than the storyteller! :-)
>
> Also in my experience, all the states of consciousness are not fixed and
> permanent, but are merely teaching tools, shifting lenses to view the single
> wholeness we have always been. We don;t need to keep experiencing a
> particular state forever; we need only truly appreciate it once, and then we
> are on to something new. New "states" continue to unfold from different
> viewpoints as we move into ignorance and suffering again and again and
> enlighten ourselves again and again in different ways through different
> bodies.
>
> This surely contradicts what I said above about the permanent timelessness of
> BC.... but BC is paradoxical, and contains all opposites. What I say would
> certainly not be true if it didn't immediately contradict itself!
>
> Love, Light and Laughter Always,
>
> R.
>
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <LEnglish5@> wrote:
> >
> > That might be, but the criteria for having some degree CC isn't perfect
> > silence, but just never losing PC while engaged in activity.
> >
> > L.
> >
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" <jr_esq@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Lawson,
> > >
> > > It all depends on what is your definition of cosmic consciousness. But
> > > having a noisy mind appears to be an indication of an inertia due to
> > > having a conditioned mind. What do you think?
> > >
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <LEnglish5@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Well, "putting" one's mind into silence sounds a bit contrived, to me.
> > > >
> > > > Someone in CC doesn't necessarily have a quiet mind. In fact, someone
> > > > in CC might have a very noisy mind -- conceivably even noisier than
> > > > before they "attained" CC -- though the trend should be towards more
> > > > silence over time, or such is my understanding.
> > > >
> > > > L
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ <no_reply@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > David needs to speak for himself. There is not necessarily a "we", in
> > > > > his comment.
> > > > >
> > > > > Thought is the *only* reason Mr. Frawley, and you, John, are able to
> > > > > share this piece of spinach with us. The engineers that developed
> > > > > this technology of communication, needed to think deeply, and
> > > > > continuously, to put this together.
> > > > >
> > > > > If I may hazard a guess, David F. has just discovered that 90% of his
> > > > > thoughts are useless energy and momentum, spent maintaining a story.
> > > > > It is a common, though by no means, universal malady.
> > > > >
> > > > > Once he sees this, perhaps Dave can put his mind into silence, and
> > > > > simply recognize the Divine utility of thought - the other 10%. In
> > > > > the meantime, his projecting isn't helping.
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "John" <jr_esq@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > "Thought, if we learn to observe it, is a reaction-mechanism devoid
> > > > > > of true consciousness. It is the inertia of our conditioning that
> > > > > > we fail to truly question."
> > > > > >
> > > > > > David Frawley
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
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