--- In [email protected], doctordumbass@... <no_reply@...> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <authfriend@> wrote: > > > > --- In [email protected], doctordumbass@ <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > Just that by keeping it to himself, and seeing what came next, > > > he could have spared himself a lot of drama, and possibly > > > time. > > > > Well, maybe, or maybe not. > > > > > That's all. I am not saying he should have been more > > > contemplative, only that hopefully he has learned now that > > > UC is not the pinnacle of human consciousness. > > > > He now thinks enlightenment generally is a sort of > > cosmic trick furthered by intelligences that do not > > have the best interests of human beings at heart. > > > I wonder if he knows what he is talking about?
It's a belief based on his own experiences. > Doesn't sound like it. He may be confused by the impersonal > nature of liberation. Uh, no. Jeez, that's funny. > Because, to say that human development, > moving in the direction of expanded identity and experience, > is somehow a trick, doesn't sound very clear to me. I'm sure it doesn't from my summary sentence. He's written about it here a great deal, though. > It is scary for most people to feel this more diffuse sense > of self, as if they will be unable to focus as a localized > entity, as efficiently as before. Perhaps that is Robin's > confusion. Doesn't seem to be the case *at all* from what he's posted here. Has nothing to do with "efficient functioning" in any case. Much bigger than that. > Or perhaps, he is mucking about in the Astral Worlds, and > doesn't know what he is doing. That could easily lead to > a conclusion about malevolent intelligences, if Robin was > having unbalanced experiences. "Mucking about" would not fit what he's said here. He did have *experiences* of malevolent intelligences, but they were involuntary. Some might have been astral, but others perhaps were more "advanced" than that. In any case, it was how he treated *people* around the last of his 10 years of teaching that eventually led to his downfall. Up until that began to go wrong, his students were extremely enthusiastic about what he was teaching them (and as he's pointed out, everybody in his group was teaching everyone else, including himself). I keep saying this, but you really, really need to read a sizable chunk of his posts to understand what happened to him. > I appreciated Robin's intuition, which he expressed very well. Though his > conclusions seem to need additional salt and other seasoning. > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <authfriend@> wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], doctordumbass@ <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Sorry, I meant all those comments wrt his UC experience. > > > > > > > > Well, I figured that, but I don't know how they relate. > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <authfriend@> > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], doctordumbass@ <no_reply@> > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yeah, it was going public that fucked him. > > > > > > > > > > > > "Going public"?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > Possibly would have grown out of it sooner, otherwise. > > > > > > > > > > > > "Grown out of it"?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > Ten years is a damned long time to be stuck > > > > > > > > > > > > "Stuck"?? > > > > > > > > > > > > > - my assumption is that he stopped TM during that time. > > > > > > > > > > > > Again, he's never said, so we really do not know. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <authfriend@> > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], doctordumbass@ > > > > > > > > <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Yummy! I haven't eaten lunch yet -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "sparaig" <LEnglish5@> > > > > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > (snip) > > > > > > > > > > This is where Robin Carlson messed up: he thought that he > > > > > > > > > > "had > > > > > > > > > > it all" because he had a valid experience of UC, and, at > > > > > > > > > > least > > > > > > > > > > by what he has said, he stopped doing TM. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > **Heard an expression a long time ago about dropping acid > > > > > > > > > that serves > > > > > > > > > as a pretty good guide, "Don't peak too soon". Works for > > > > > > > > > seekers, and > > > > > > > > > child actors, too. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Er, it wouldn't have worked for Robin. He had no choice about > > > > > > > > when > > > > > > > > to "peak." It was involuntary and completely unexpected, and it > > > > > > > > didn't go away for 10-plus years. (And he's never said exactly > > > > > > > > when he stopped doing TM.) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
