Rory, I don't understand this at all. I thought that in Unity one is one with 
all. How could that possible mean being lord of all? Could it not be that 
people remain in Unity for decades because there is one heck of a lot of 
integrating going on?




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 From: RoryGoff <roryg...@hotmail.com>
To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
Sent: Saturday, August 10, 2013 10:00 PM
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Meditators
 


  
Yeah, I don't know, but I am pretty sure I know one or more people who have 
remained in UC or something similar for decades. There is a pay-off for the ego 
NOT to go further, for it is at its pinnacle, lord of all it surveys (LOL) and 
why would it trade cake for death? :-D

--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... <no_reply@...> wrote:
>
> Sure, agreed about the lack of choice, especially since it has already 
> happened. But ten years seems like one heck of a long time to be stuck in UC 
> - Can't even conceive of such a thing; a lack of fundamental integration, for 
> that length of time - unbelievable.
> 
> Yeah, the drain plug gets pulled on all concepts and relative comparisons, 
> eventually. Not because they cannot be made, if necessary, but because they 
> stop making sense, overall, which is different. And since water flows 
> downhill, there is not much sustained thought in that direction, of an 
> identity. Whatever it is, is freer to be whatever suits the moment. 
> 
> There is no holding onto, because not only is there no attachment to the 
> object, the subject-object ceases to fuse together into Unity Consciousness. 
> Instead, the subject and the object disappear completely, paradoxically 
> allowing each to be fully experienced, in the moment, encompassing 
> potentially, all and any states of consciousness (SOC).
> 
> Encompassing potentially, all SOC, does not mean that access is theoretically 
> available for anyone. Sure, that, and five bucks, buys you coffee. So, in 
> order to encompass the potential of all SOC, the elimination of the 
> subject-object relationship has to occur. 
> 
> After that, it smooths out - lol
> 
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" <rorygoff@> wrote:
> >
> > I am not sure he had any real choice to do it differently; it seems that I 
> > never have. For me, anyhow, Awakening rather destroyed any illusion of free 
> > will and real choice I ever had. This is not entirely true, though, of 
> > course.
> > 
> > True enough though that for some at least UC is not the pinnacle, and the 
> > "next step" often involves abjuring the whole idea of steps, and a 
> > pinnacle, and growth, and all of that, in a way. :-)
> > 
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ <no_reply@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Just that by keeping it to himself, and seeing what came next, he could 
> > > have spared himself a lot of drama, and possibly time. That's all. I am 
> > > not saying he should have been more contemplative, only that hopefully he 
> > > has learned now that UC is not the pinnacle of human consciousness.
> > > 
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <authfriend@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ <no_reply@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Sorry, I meant all those comments wrt his UC experience.
> > > > 
> > > > Well, I figured that, but I don't know how they relate.
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <authfriend@> 
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ <no_reply@> 
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Yeah, it was going public that fucked him.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > "Going public"??
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Possibly would have grown out of it sooner, otherwise.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > "Grown out of it"??
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Ten years is a damned long time to be stuck
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > "Stuck"??
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > - my assumption is that he stopped TM during that time.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Again, he's never said, so we really do not know.
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <authfriend@> 
> > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ 
> > > > > > > > <no_reply@> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Yummy! I haven't eaten lunch yet --
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "sparaig" <LEnglish5@> 
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > > > (snip)
> > > > > > > > > > This is where Robin Carlson messed up: he thought that he 
> > > > > > > > > > "had
> > > > > > > > > > it all" because he had a valid experience of UC, and, at 
> > > > > > > > > > least
> > > > > > > > > > by what he has said, he stopped doing TM.
> > > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > > **Heard an expression a long time ago about dropping acid 
> > > > > > > > > that serves
> > > > > > > > > as a pretty good guide, "Don't peak too soon". Works for 
> > > > > > > > > seekers, and
> > > > > > > > > child actors, too.
> > > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > > Er, it wouldn't have worked for Robin. He had no choice about 
> > > > > > > > when
> > > > > > > > to "peak." It was involuntary and completely unexpected, and it
> > > > > > > > didn't go away for 10-plus years. (And he's never said exactly
> > > > > > > > when he stopped doing TM.)
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>


 

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