Hey Doc - thank you, yes indeed a natural fascination/attraction for other cultures, there's healthy and unhealthy and you are right I got to see lot of unhealthy aping of Hindu customs around Amma.
"Ravi, do you ever get treated as spiritually "special" just because you are Indian - lol" No - dear God no. Because all my life, pre-2009 I have acted normal, extremely introverted except at work and focused on my career and family. Post-2009 it's a different story - it's either a loving, playful, sincere, supportive act with friends and totally outrageous, crazy, witty, silly - hell bent on mocking, confusing, perplexing people and pushing their buttons with my act. On Mon, Aug 19, 2013 at 9:38 PM, doctordumb...@rocketmail.com < no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote: > ** > > > Ooops - "Conversely, met a lot of brown and black people..." > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... <no_reply@...> > wrote: > > > > Its a weird fucking thing - I have met a lot of white people in the US > who have some desire at some point, to be black or brown, "ethnic", or, > "exotic". Your descriptions of all the, "my precious little brown sister" > stuff, around Amma, reminds me of it. Conversely, met a lot of brown and > people that want to be whiter. I grew up as a minority white kid, but I > also tanned - lol, and spoke the languages of the countries where I lived. > > Ravi, do you ever get treated as spiritually "special" just because you > are Indian - lol? > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Ravi Chivukula" <chivukula.ravi@> > wrote: > > > > > > Religious delusional beliefs - a set of beliefs, consisting of > > > religious terms, myths, symbolisms, archetypes, philosophy and/or > > > paradigm that form a person's narrative of his or her subjective, > > > spiritual, mystical experiences which thereby leaves the person > > > invulnerable to reality. > > > > > > So an important premise of the definition is that each of us human > > > beings are created, vulnerable beings i.e are subject to be influenced > > > by reality (or life or existence or God or whatever way you would like > > > to objectify this energy which I have chosen to merely define it as a > > > mysterious, dynamic, organic entity) > > > > > > Once an agreement is reached on the basic premise, the definition of > > > religious delusional beliefs is very easy to be understood and why I > > > choose to label Amma under the grip of a religious, delusional belief, > > > hopelessly deceived and deluded. > > > > > > Amma - went through genuine mystical experiences but the villagers then > > > enchanted by this woman, Amma in a mystical trance assumed Amma to be > > > possessed by the Divine Mother. In line with centuries old > superstitious > > > beliefs of theirs, their objectification of the ​mysterious, > > > dynamic, organic entity. > > > > > > Here Amma, a woman who was much abused by her family, crude and > > > uneducated fishergirl didn't know any better. Her father, who also > > > enacted these myths of divine possession - of Krishna and Devi must > > > have played along as well. Why not - this was part of their folklore, > > > their beliefs. > > > > > > Thus started the myth of the Divine Mother which would fool humanity > for > > > a long time. > > > > > > Now you can see this from her autobiography - a tale of magic, mystery > > > constructed out of the above narrative. I think the people around her > > > conveniently fit her child abuse, her other stories into an > incredulous > > > narrative of 18th century woo-woo. > > > > > > And on the myth spread and now the PR team takes it one step further > > > and elevates her to the status of a humanitarian - medals, awards - > > > even a doctorate follows. > > > > > > Westerners burdened by their guilt for poor, for suffering, ridden by > > > this existential angst, eager to unburden themselves, numb themselves > > > from reality's puzzling, baffling, perplexing contradictions and > > > complexities were quite willing to buy into this mystical, magical tale > > > who a-la-Christ suffered for humanity's sins - this loving, embracing > > > Saint. > > > > > > It's a wonder that she has fooled the public and press for this long - > > > the majority anyway. > > > > > > So will reality play along with Ravi Chivukula's theory? Is Ravi - a > > > mere instrument of reality in this unravelling of the myth of Amma? > > > Amma - a mystically entranced Amma, an innocent village girl turned > > > charlatan? > > > > > > Or is Ravi deluded and deceived himself? One thing for sure - if I am > > > indeed deceived and deluded because I am forever vulnerable to reality > - > > > I will absorb any new information that disproves me and gracefully > > > adapt to the new reality. > > > > > > > >
