To your last point, yes, these concepts are torture, if they are not realized.
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@... <no_reply@...> wrote: > > I am sorry, but this is incorrect, Share. The movement from CC to GC is one > of perceiving the finest relative. This gives the mind the entire spectrum of > perceived reality to consider, but is not the movement from UC, onward. Both > the "me" of CC, and the "me" of GC are the same. There can also be finest > perception in GC and not a shred of UC. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long <sharelong60@> wrote: > > > > iranitea, I would say that this is a description of the movement from CC to > > GC where fullness of fullness, the Absolute moves into the fullness of > > emptiness, the relative. The Self in CC has recognized that there is > > something else and the heartfelt inquiry into what that something else is, > > fuels the ability to overcome the fear of that emptiness. Of course under > > the influence of a soma laden physiology, especially the heart, that > > emptiness turns out to be the fullness of emptiness so not separate at all. > > > > > > And would it not be wonderful if these concepts were not merely allegorical > > but also quite literal, mean physical. > > > > > > ________________________________ > > From: iranitea <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 6:13 AM > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: How the deluded see the world.... > > > > > > > > Â > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > Robin could have been in Unity consciousness, where similarity > > > predominates, over differences. But that SOC is still relative to one's > > > singular identity. The identity must shift to a less localized state to > > > grow beyond the Unity SOC. The core fear of duality is still present in > > > the Unity SOC, although the perception that this duality is an illusion > > > begins to take hold, due to the incontrovertible oneness that the heart > > > and intellect begin to sense, outwardly. > > > > > Dr.D this is an interesting POV, what you say makes sense (even though, I > > don't know what is really the case here). But it does remind me of a series > > of tapes - probably the spiritual development course - where he speaks of > > the fullness of fullness, and the fullness of emptiness (both he calls > > 'fullness'). Obviously emptiness is synonymous of duality here. (I don't > > think he means the emptiness of the Buddhists). > > > > He then goes on to describe, that the fullness, obviously Unity, despite of > > the fact that it is everywhere, senses, that there is a place where it is > > not,at least the possibility of such a place, emptiness, and he speaks of > > Fullness moving because of the fear it has of emptiness - Fullness is on > > the move - was the phrase he used. I always thought, this is highly > > allegorically, fullness on the move would be a synonym for Shakti, but may > > be it is borne out of an experience, just like the one you describe. > > >