In the Veda is written Brahman says: my indestructible maya Maybe the world is simply God's self deluded brain fart!
--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "RoryGoff" <rorygoff@...> wrote: > > My (admittedly dim) recollection of the whole "emptiness vs. fullness" > dialectic is it was simply two ways of seeing Brahman or Wholeness -- the > Nirguna, essentially Wholeness perceived through the mind as "No-thing," the > unchanging Void, which may take over all of the "relative" in a kind of Dark > Night of the Soul (or "crucifixion" or "Nirvana"); and the Saguna, or > Wholeness perceived through the heart as "Every-thing," discovered on ceasing > the hitherto-unconscious resistance to the unchanging Void (and judgment of > "out there"), and surrendering whole-heartedly into That as the Emptiful Us > (or "resurrection")... but doubtless this is merely the self-deluded > brain-fart of a raving tranced-out guru wanna-be. > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > I am sorry, but this is incorrect, Share. The movement from CC to GC is one > > of perceiving the finest relative. This gives the mind the entire spectrum > > of perceived reality to consider, but is not the movement from UC, onward. > > Both the "me" of CC, and the "me" of GC are the same. There can also be > > finest perception in GC and not a shred of UC. > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Share Long <sharelong60@> wrote: > > > > > > iranitea, I would say that this is a description of the movement from CC > > > to GC where fullness of fullness, the Absolute moves into the fullness of > > > emptiness, the relative. The Self in CC has recognized that there is > > > something else and the heartfelt inquiry into what that something else > > > is, fuels the ability to overcome the fear of that emptiness. Of course > > > under the influence of a soma laden physiology, especially the heart, > > > that emptiness turns out to be the fullness of emptiness so not separate > > > at all. > > > > > > > > > And would it not be wonderful if these concepts were not merely > > > allegorical but also quite literal, mean physical. > > > > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: iranitea <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> > > > To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com > > > Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 6:13 AM > > > Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: How the deluded see the world.... > > > > > > > > > > > > Â > > > > > > > > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, doctordumbass@ <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Robin could have been in Unity consciousness, where similarity > > > > predominates, over differences. But that SOC is still relative to one's > > > > singular identity. The identity must shift to a less localized state to > > > > grow beyond the Unity SOC. The core fear of duality is still present in > > > > the Unity SOC, although the perception that this duality is an illusion > > > > begins to take hold, due to the incontrovertible oneness that the heart > > > > and intellect begin to sense, outwardly. > > > > > > > Dr.D this is an interesting POV, what you say makes sense (even though, I > > > don't know what is really the case here). But it does remind me of a > > > series of tapes - probably the spiritual development course - where he > > > speaks of the fullness of fullness, and the fullness of emptiness (both > > > he calls 'fullness'). Obviously emptiness is synonymous of duality here. > > > (I don't think he means the emptiness of the Buddhists). > > > > > > He then goes on to describe, that the fullness, obviously Unity, despite > > > of the fact that it is everywhere, senses, that there is a place where it > > > is not,at least the possibility of such a place, emptiness, and he speaks > > > of Fullness moving because of the fear it has of emptiness - Fullness is > > > on the move - was the phrase he used. I always thought, this is highly > > > allegorically, fullness on the move would be a synonym for Shakti, but > > > may be it is borne out of an experience, just like the one you describe. > > > > > >
