Judy, I am aware of Barry's ad hom posts and I don't like them and instantly stop reading when I get that whiff. I do like some of his other types. I understand your position on that and do see what you see, at least to some extent. I think that I am not so bothered by it - not sure why it does not get to me. But you yourself are in that group that, to me at least, seem to be doing lots of ad h posting, attacks on others. Obviously you are extremely bright and are a terrific source of information and are good at detail and analysis. And you are very sure of your opinions. But I find many (not all some are excellent to me) of your posts to be confrontational and others to be about details and distracting from the main point. Those are the ones of yours that I move on from.
Just go thru the postings with an open mind, as if you were a newbie here. Notice how may are attacking other people (not just Barry's, but several the others). Name Calling, bringing up old old posts and creating arguments about people's past positions on something or someone. It is pretty odd, and for me with not much free time due to a job and other responsibilities, really repetitious. I just limit my time and read things that speak to me, so I am not advocating posting limits. It is more the tone of the place and all the personal stuff that goes on and on and is not resolved. I mean, if you don't like someone, why bother to read what they write? Unless you enjoy arguing, which might be the case. But I can't see that anyone here has changed anyone else in any way by criticizing. Or pointing things out. Maybe this post is just another one of those.............So, for me being selective and opting out once I get that Ad H whiff is my solution. --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <authfriend@...> wrote: > > --- In [email protected], "Susan" <wayback71@> wrote: > > > > Actually, i meant pretty much what Barry said, and I was > > not including Barry in the posts that I don't read. I do > > skip his posts where he generalizes about TB's at FFL. I > > also skip most of the posts of several other people for > > the reasons I stated. I find many of Barry's posts really > > interesting. > > What I've never understood, Susan, is how you've missed > the fact that Barry's posts, more than anyone else's on > FFL, *depend* on ad hominem. > > If you are trying to avoid reading ad hominem, you'd have > to skip reading *most* of his posts. It's not just those > that "generalize about TBs at FFL." It's vicious, > sadistic personal attacks on specific individuals, attacks > on *TMers* in general (not just those on FFL, and not just > TBs), attacks on Americans in general, and on and on. > > And for the most part these are *gratuitous* attacks, not > responses to attacks by others on himself. > > I'm far from the only person here who is aware of all > this. Barry's posts emit a sort of miasma of hatred that > permeates the group, and you have somehow managed to > close your perception to it--while at the same time > self-righteously holding your nose at the ad hominem of > *other* people. > > It's just very, very strange, Susan. > > > > > > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <authfriend@> wrote: > > > > > > --- In [email protected], turquoiseb <no_reply@> wrote: > > > > > > > > --- In [email protected], Bhairitu <noozguru@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I'm sure the Reverend Turq will have something to say > > > > > in his morning sermon about this weeks winners. ;-) > > > > > > > > Not really. I think wayback covered it sufficiently > > > > with her suggestion that people learn from their > > > > previous experience and just not bother reading any > > > > of the posts by people who you already know won't > > > > have anything to say. > > > > > > Ah, but that wasn't what she said, now, was it, Barry? > > > > > > Here's what she said: > > > > > > "Agreed that a huge percentage of posts here are ad hominum, > > > and usually made by the same people over and over and over. > > > I think they enjoy that type of interaction, thrive on it > > > even. Not my style, though. And not at all the way things > > > used to be here, as you know. One solution is not to read > > > them. At all. Works for me." > > > > > > Which means she doesn't read *your* posts, Barry, and > > > that you've just suggested to FFLers that *they* not > > > read your posts. > > > > > > OOOOOOOOOOOooooooooopsie. > > > > > >
