--- In [email protected], Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> on 9/26/05 7:12 PM, shempmcgurk at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> > --- In [email protected], Rick Archer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> on 9/26/05 2:28 AM, anonymousff at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> What licentious behavior and why do you care?
> >>>
> >>> Bevan and Hagelin are infamous womanizers. They have not limited
> >>> themselves to single women, they have no scruples, or at least they
> >>> didn't for a looong time, about whose wife they sleep with. It has
> >>> been going on for years, it has been talked about for years, it has
> >>> been hashed and rehashed, it is not rumors, marriages have broken
> > up
> >>> over it. And no one says anything or cares about it.
> >>
> >> A friend of mine who is a respected, long-time MUM faculty member
> > said that
> >> even recently young coeds have been coming to him in tears, because
> > Hagelin
> >> has slept with them and then dumped them. So it still goes on.
> >
> >
> > If this is true, it is a major scandal waiting to happen.
> >
> > It also suggests incredible contempt that Hagelin has for the TMO
in that he feels it is SO weak that he has license to do all these
things without fear of being held accountable because they need him
so badly..
>
> But as people have been saying, it has been going on for years and
somehow no one is scandalized. At least not enough people with enough
clout to do anything about it.
I am still missing something here. From my perspective, probabably
weak and uninformed, it seems like a house of cards -- build in mid
air. Where is the issue regarding John?
1) he is not teaching, thus he is not having sex with students for
whom he has supervisory responsibilities.
2) any romantic or sexual relations he has with students appears to be
consensual, otherwise students would / should report the coercion.
3) That some girls cry when John inevitably moves on seems to be at
least a two way street.
a) did the girls think he was going down in FF and marry them? if
so, I speculate and suggest that they have severe delusional problems
and should seek treatment)
b) did john lie or mistreat them? has that been established?
4) Is it alleged that John used undue male dominance / power to
overcome the poor naive "coeds"? If this is your issue and concern,
read some of the "Coed in Tears" articles I posted.
5) Do coeds ever flirt with or seek John's attention or company?
6) Does John provide and offer any intellectual insights/ diologue,
emotional support and/or life-experience perspectives to
relationships that enrich the woamn's life?
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