--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: <snip> [Akasha108 wrote:] > > > Tom T writes: > > > No matter how radical that all sounds it is possible to be able > > > to hold all that in the awake mind. > > > > Then it must be possible to be able to > > hold all that in the unawake mind too. All Possibilities.
> Right; no real difference between ignorance and enlightenment, or > between being "asleep" and being "awake" -- though oddly enough, as > we have seen, only the experientially "awake" appear generally able > to appreciate this to any visceral extent, while the self- > diagnosed "unawake" or "not yet awake" often would appear rather > strenuously engaged in denying their (seemingly) self- > evident "awake" presence in favor of some not-present (not-here- > now) idealized criteria. Or not. My only criterion, for instance, is not to be overshadowed. <snip> > How can that which is and has always been and will always be self- > sufficient, self-evident and self-effulgent, ever hide itself from > itself? > > My guess is that we get attached to those very descriptors (or ones > like them) as "ideas" or "ideals" and use them to *obscure* the > reality they are intended to *describe* (which can of course appear > quite horrible, gnarly, and so on as well as stunningly beautiful, > etc.), and so the projection is underway, and don't we all love a > good movie! Take a minute for a little thought experiment, Rory. Let's say we don't get attached. Let's say we've never *been* attached. Let's say human beans have always been realized. How far back would that apply, do you think, given that human beans--Homo sapiens--didn't emerge full- blown from the head of Zeus but evolved gradually from earlier humanoid species? And then I've got another question or two. ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor --------------------~--> Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your home page http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/JjtolB/TM --------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To subscribe, send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Or go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ and click 'Join This Group!' Yahoo! Groups Links <*> To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/FairfieldLife/ <*> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <*> Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/