--- In [email protected], "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
<snip>
> So long as we do *not* appreciate *this* 
> moment as a "god-given" gift we have not yet fully unwrapped and 
> understood -- that long do we find it to be shrouded in darkness, 
> ignorance, fear, suffering, and so on: the darkness and ignorance 
> of our own lack of attention and unconditional appreciation.

Yes, that's being overshadowed.

> When we 
> simply "be" with it, breathe with it, allow ourselves to feel it in 
> the body non-judgmentally ("this too is good" -- or "...God" 
> or "...bliss" --), relaxing into it while appreciating it, then it 
> lightens up.

Yes, that's what being overshadowed makes it
impossible to do.

<snip>
> Judy:
> > > > I don't know what it's like to be realized; I do
> > > > know what it's like to be ignorant, in other words.
> 
> Rory:
> > > "Being realized" isn't "like" anything <snip>
> 
> Judy:
> > Yes, it is.  It's like being realized.  It's *not*
> > like being in ignorance.
> 
> Rory:
> How do you know this, if you don't know what being realized is? In 
> my experience/understanding anyhow, it is *precisely* like being in 
> ignorance -- with the slight but crucial adjustment

Right.  Lacking that "slight but crucial
adjustment" is what being in ignorance is
like.  Not like being realized, in other words.





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