noozguru, are you saying that computers attempt to stay in their comfort zone? If yes, what is that for a computer?
________________________________ From: Bhairitu <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 2:53 PM Subject: Re: [FairfieldLife] RE: Are we living in the end times? Computers compute. They are little like a gazillion calculators. AI experts have concluded that the human mind doesn't work that way. It learns patterns instead of calculating. You can "emulate" that with a computer though. Our minds seem complicated but in really what drives us is trying to stay in a "comfort zone." The simplest creatures also work this way. On 09/18/2013 12:00 PM, [email protected] wrote: >Jason, > > >AI in computers are only mimicking the real consciousness of human beings. >Computer intelligence will only be as good as the human programmers who >created it. For example, it is a fact that an IBM computer was able to beat >Kasparov in a chess championship setting. But it was programmed to calculate >possibilities in chess moves by brute force. The real consciousness comes >from the humans who programmed the computer. > > >IMO, this will hold true for any other developments in AI in the future. In >the end, computers will only be silicon chips (even quantum chips) pretending >to have human consciousness. > > >--- In [email protected], <jedi_spock@...> wrote: > > > >> > --- "s3raphita" <s3raphita@...> wrote: >> > >> > The point of the Chinese Room thought experiment being >> > to show that consciousness can't be reduced to >> > computation (as the advocates of AI like to pretend* >> > they believe). Searle is right about that. >> > >> > >--- "bobpriced" <bobpriced@...> wrote: >> >> Did you mean to say that the advocates of AI are lying* >> about what they believe? If so, I thought your comment was >> interesting since *pretending* is the only way a computer >> program will ever pass The Turing Test (is it possible the >> programs are advocating for themselves); Eugene >> Goostman---to date, the computer program with the most >> successful attempt at The Turing Test (29%)---got as far >> as it did by *pretending* to be a 13 year-old Ukrainian >> male who spoke English as a second language (rumours that >> Share is related to Eugene are completely unfounded). >> >> >> > What he wouldn't go on to see was that consciousness >> > being irreducible it is also basic. All explanations of >> > the Cosmos must come down to some element more essential >> > than what is being explained. That game can't go on for >> > ever otherwise you have an infinite regress. >> > >> > Something has (or somethings have) to be basic and >> > consciousness [better "awareness"] being that thing (or >> > one of those things) it follows immediately that >> > Darwinian Theory which postulates that consciousness is >> > a late development in evolutionary history is clearly >> > wrong. Q.E.D. >> > >> > >--- "bobpriced" <bobpriced@...> wrote: >> >> If the use of adornment could be construed as an attempt >> to *pretend* to be something other than what we are, and >> if adornment is an important indicator used by >> archeologists to identify Homo sapiens (it takes human >> consciousness to understand we can influence the >> perception of others), when studying the fossils of >> hominids, is there still hope that computers will learn to >> lie better and eventually pass The Turing Test? >> >> > >Computers today are savants with the intelligence of a >spider or a cockroach. 20 years in the future, they will >have the intelligence and the intuition of a two year old. > >There are many facets of intelligence. Memory power and >computing power are only one aspect of intelligence. > >LQ - This is logic quotient. These people are good in >maths. logical steps for solutions. > >CQ - Corelation Quotient. The ability to corelate diverse >factors and see how they fit. > >MQ - Memory quotient. Ability to recall information is a >type of intelligence and plays a role in survival. > >TQ - Tribulation quotient. the ability to deal with >stressfull and chaotic envionment. > >EQ - Emotional quotient. The ability to handle emotions and >compartment them. Empathy the ability to put in other's >shoes and see their POV is a type of intelligence. > > >> > > --- "bobpriced" <bobpriced@...> wrote: >> > > >> > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TryOC83PH1g >> > > > >
