--- In [email protected], "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > --- In [email protected], "jim_flanegin" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > > --- In [email protected], TurquoiseB 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > wrote:
> > > > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > > wrote:
> > > > > --- In [email protected], "Rory Goff" 
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > > > Judy:
> > > > > > > > Rory, has it ever occurred to you to say to
> > > > > > > > yourself, "Gee, this doesn't seem to be working"?
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Rory: 
> > > > > > > *lol* No. I certainly wouldn't see the point in giving 
up
> > > > > > > before we have even tried; that doesn't seem like you. 
> But 
> > > > > > > it is *your* body, and *your* emotions and *your* mind, 
> and 
> > > > > > > you have every right to choose when and where and with 
> whom 
> > > > > > > and certainly *whether or not* to inquire into them. I 
> > > > > > > think you're the greatest either way.:-)
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > On the other hand, if I *were* saying to myself, "Gee, 
> this 
> > > > > > doesn't seem to be working," and if there were some pain 
> > > > > > associated with the thought, I suppose I would go ahead 
> and 
> > > > > > breathe and see/feel where in the body that 
pain/defeatism 
> > > > > > was located, and so on ... :-)
> > > > > 
> > > > > Great.  You go do that, and let us know what
> > > > > you discover, OK?
> > > > 
> > > > And Judy will keep complaining about being in 
> > > > ignorance.  It's a status quo thang...  :-)
> > > 
> > > It is the small self, which is *not* Judy, fighting for its
> > > illusory life...
> > 
> > (1) The small self *is* Judy.  Judy's the 
> > illusion.
> > 
> > (2) Being in ignorance is *not* what Judy is 
> > complaining about, never has been.
> > 
> > (3) All three of you--Rory, Barry, and Jim--have
> > completely missed the point I was making to Rory.
> > I really didn't think I was being *that* subtle.
> > 
> > Take another look at what I wrote a little earlier
> > in the thread, commenting on Rory's attempt to
> > play therapist:
> > 
> > "If I work *really really hard* on this, someday
> > in the future I may come to be able to appreciate
> > the Now."
> > 
> > Jim, try thinking about this one above your head,
> > see if you can pick up on one of those effortless
> > answers.
> > 
> > If you're still stumped, revisit the original
> > context:
> > 
> > --- In [email protected], "Rory Goff" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > wrote:
> > > --- In [email protected], "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > wrote:
> > > <snip>
> > > >
> > [to Barry:]
> > > > So I'm sitting there not appreciating the Now,
> > > > and I say to myself, "I'd rather be appreciating
> > > > the Now."
> > > >
> > > > My point is that you've gotten yourself into
> > > > yet another infinite regress when you "prescribe"
> > > > appreciating the Now.
> > >
> > > Some Suggestions on How to Appreciate the Now:
> > >
> > > 1) Pay attention to whatever is in front of us. How are we 
> feeling?
> > > If we feel good, the exercise is done. If not, try step 2.
> > 
> > "It would be better if I felt good."
> > 
> > > 2) If we don't feel completely satisfied, and we wish to clarify
> > > our thinking patterns,
> > 
> > "It would be better if I clarified my thinking
> > patterns so I could be completely satisfied."
> > 
> > <snip>
> > > 3) If we don't feel completely satisfied, and we wish to clarify
> > > our emotional-physiological patterns,
> > 
> > "It would be better if I clarified my
> > emotional-physiological patterns so I could be
> > completely satisified."
> > 
> > If I work *really really hard* on this, someday
> > in the future I may come to be able to appreciate
> > the Now.
> 
> If you would rather not do the Work, that is (apparently) your 
> prerogative :-)

Try again, Rory, you still ain't getting it.





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