Testing. Richard, maybe Domash didn't mention the tantric origins because 
Westerners can have such a narrow view of what tantra is. And that view does 
not include being a recluse!

On Wednesday, October 9, 2013 10:18 AM, Richard J. Williams 
<pundits...@gmail.com> wrote:
It sounds to me like you wanted to believe there was pie up in the sky, but you 
failed to get any. Maybe you sucked as a baker or maybe you just couldn't sit 
still to do a simple kindergarden yoga pose. Go figure.

Maybe you just conned yourself - at any rate, it must have been a
      powerful experience, since you're still talking about it after all
      these years. LoL!

On 10/8/2013 12:26 PM, Michael Jackson wrote:

>you knew him better than I did, but nah, it wasn't revolutionary, just another 
>con man using the best con man's trick in the world, i.e. the best cons are 
>ones that contain some truth, or have something that is of some value.
>Let's not forget that the term con artist means confidence
>A confidence trick is an attempt to defraud a person or group after first 
>gaining their confidence, in the classical sense of trust.
>In David Mamet's film House of Games, the main con artist gives a slightly 
>different description of the "confidence game". He explains that, in a typical 
>swindle, the con man gives the mark his own confidence, encouraging the mark 
>to in turn trust him. The con artist thus poses as a trustworthy person 
>seeking another trustworthy person.
> From: turquoiseb <no_re...@yahoogroups.com>
>To: FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com 
>Sent: Tuesday, October 8, 2013 8:16 AM
>Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: MMY and Siddha Tradtions
>--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, Michael Jackson wrote:
>> what about it was revolutionary? He
                                wasn't the only Indian guru
>> who came to the states and europe
                                to promote his schtick you know.
>It was revolutionary in that he found a
                                way to present a technique
>of meditation designed for beginners, as
                                a mere starting point from
>which to explore more interesting
                                techniques, as the "end point"
>of meditation itself. In other words, he
                                presented a kindergarten
>level of meditation as "the best, most
                                effective form of meditation
>on the planet," and convinced millions
                                of people it was true.
>I'd call the chutzpah of that pretty
                                revolutionary, wouldn't you? :-)

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