wgm, doshas as faults of the ego reminds me of that tape wherein Maharishi explains that the fundamental problems of life listed in chapter 2 of the Gita can be generated by combining the three gunas with the 5 mahabhutas: sattvic problem in pritivi, sattvic problem in jala, sattvic problem in tejas, etc. And in 4, 35 of the Gita: delusion in tamas is overcome by increasing rajas; delusion in rajas is overcome by increasing sattwa; by delusion in sattwa, Arjuna's situation, can only be overcome by transcending the gunas. I mention these to say: isn't the body consciousness already?
On Saturday, October 26, 2013 6:01 PM, wgm4u <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote: One can read too much into an analogy :-) Desire and attachment go hand in hand, these powerful desires are the "Sleeping Elephants" MMY was talking about, they have to be dealt with, they reside deep in the subconscious mind and tie the consciousness to the body. They are spoken of in Christian ethics as the 7 cardinal sins; wrath, greed, sloth, pride, lust, envy and gluttony. In Yoga they are spoken of as the 'doshas' or faults of the ego. ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com> wrote: wgm, but in a way, wouldn't gold chains be harder to let go of? Even in the Gita Maharishi talks about having to let go of attachment to sattwa. Anyway, I remember hearing something about the desire for enlightenment being used to sublimate all other desires. Eeeek! On Saturday, October 26, 2013 11:43 AM, wgm4u <no_re...@yahoogroups.com> wrote: I think there are good desires and bad desires, one leads to heaven the other hell but both keep one bound to the wheel of Samsara. Charlie used to say you can have iron chains or gold chains depending on your Karma, obviously we'd prefer gold chains. I was mainly talking about sinful desire like lust, greed and the like. Boooo ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com> wrote: So I guess wgm, we got a case of it takes a thorn to remove a thorn in that during the Roman Catholic Mass, the wine is changed into the blood of Christ and all are invited to partake! Of course Maharishi had a very different take on desire, seeing it as what leads us to more and more bliss, to ultimate bliss. These days I'd say that if desire is a demon or a mistake of the intellect or a delusion it's because we already are that which we desire. What do you think? ---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <fairfieldlife@yahoogroups.com> wrote: The curse of Dracula! Is, the very *damnation* Christ warned about! The *blood* of *desire*!!! Drinking the blood of sensuality dooms those, who go so forth, to the wheel of eternal *in-satiability* and the wheel of birth and death (Samsara or eternal damnation to reincarnation because of desire) until the *demon* of desire is quelled and the peace of soul realization is gained through meditation and God realization. ( Hey, a little Halloween here, enjoy!)