[FairfieldLife] Re: Intelligent Design - - (What would happen if Hagelin...?)

Thu, 29 Sep 2005 14:56:28 -0700

 
                                                                          
 
Hari Om,
               If Order has purpose then, Chaos has no purpose.??  Hydrogen molecules inside the Sun are in a chaotic state because of very high temperature.  But they do some work.
 
      The issue is whether it is impersonal intelligent design or Personal intelligent design.
 
      Maharishi belongs to the Vedanta school, Adi-Sankara line.  It talks of impersonal Brahman.  Look at Maharishi's commentary on Gita.  He uses the word Evolution numerous times.
 
 
      Mutations in genes take place only due to Entropy, which exists only because of disorder.  If there is perfect order mutations in genes cannot take place.  Evolution cannot take place on the Absolute Brahman because there is perfection and order there.  it can take place only in a duality based material universe
 
                                                                       Jason
 
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From:  "off_world_beings" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>  
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 21:01:30 -0000
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Intelligent Design - - (What would happen if Hagelin...?)

Yes you do.
Order has purpose. Whatever its purpose is, is irrelevent, but it has purpose imposed upon by the nature of the system that it is expressing. Evolotion absolutlely implies purpose. Its purpose is evolotion. Now define evolution, without calling it chaos. It has a direction.

OffWorld

From: "bbrigante" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>   
Date: Thu, 29 Sep 2005 19:47:29 -0000
Subject: [FairfieldLife] Re: Intelligent Design - - (Was: What would happen if Hagelin...)

To me, intelligent design theory is completely inadequate and unexplanatory and not as comprehensive as what MMY said. I think it's necessary to distinguish between reacting to behavior, which is what God does, and controlling everything, which intelligent design theorists seem to embrace. Human beings have obvious freedom of
choice, and they suffer or enjoy based on the feedback from those choices. But animals and plants, although they do not have the consciousness to override their genetically-determined behaviors, do engage in maladaptive behaviors which result in feedback that
eventually eliminates them. So natural selection, whether it is seen as decisions by a God or as decisions by impersonal natural laws, is a fact that is not acknowledged by intelligent design theorists because of their limited intelligence and knowledge -- MMY is not saying what intelligent design theorists are saying.
 
 
             
 
 

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