To be accurate, Adwaita Vedanta holds that maya is not real, yet it is not unreal (in the sense that it is resented to you). An illusion is not absolutely real because it is not based on permanence, but an illusion is real because it is just false knowledge, like in a dream, or mistaking a rope for a snake.

"For those well versed in the Vedaanta the world is like a city of Gaandharvas - an illusion."

Source:

'Gaudapada'
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaudapada

On 11/11/2013 1:57 PM, anartax...@yahoo.com wrote:

But where did the quote come from? If Tom Egnes is the source, then Tom = Veda, and we can skip Indian literature altogether.


Another version of the idea is'The world is unreal; Brahman is real; the world is Brahman'. This seems to be translation of a quotation by Shankara commenting on one of the Upanishads, but I do not know which one.



---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote:

Xeno, I googled on brahman maya and there were lots of hits. There were also a lot of hits under brahman maya relationship. It seems to be quite controversial, some saying maya is not real and others saying it is real. And my favorite was the teacher who said it's pointless to try and understand it until one is enlightened. But I find it enjoyable to let the brain play with these ideas.



On Monday, November 11, 2013 1:30 PM, Share Long <sharelong60@...> wrote:
I haven't figured it out. I didn't reply to you before because you resorted to name calling.



On Monday, November 11, 2013 1:25 PM, "authfriend@..." <authfriend@...> wrote: So, Share, have you figured out where you made your mistake with "OTOH" in response to what I said? No? Or do you just not want to admit it?


---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, <sharelong60@...> wrote:

Xeno, fyi, I have Hellman's REAL Mayonnaise in my frig, wouldn't use anything else for tuna fish salad! As for the quote, MUM Sanskrit professor Dr. Tom Egenes shared it with our class during the 91-92 school year when I was taking the MA in SCI. It's one of those phrases that stuck with me because it's so unexpected, paradoxical, koany, etc.

Some say that maya ruled by tamas guna is a covering, ruled by rajo guma is a veil. But maya ruled by sat guna, it actually said to be a ladder to ultimate reality. Go figure (-:


On Monday, November 11, 2013 12:45 PM, "anartaxius@..." <anartaxius@...> wrote: Does anyone here know the source of the quote "My indestructible Maya"? On the Internet I find just a small collection of websites, FFL principally, mentioning the phrase, but no precise source. Since Share quoted it, I assume that she is picking it out of her memory rather than from a source text. I recall the phrase, but my feeble aging brain, cannot recall where I read or otherwise heard it.

Is this translated phrase from the Vedas (and which one? Rig, etc.), the Upanishads, or the Bhagavad-Gita? (in particular the MMY translation of the latter)

Whether Maya is real or not, it is certainly present here on FFL.

I have seen this product in refrigerators of meditators, "Vegenaise", a non animal derived product purporting to replace mayonnaise. Maybe itshould be called Mayannaise instead, except people would probably confuse it with the Mayan civilisation of Central America. But then, confusion is the whole purpose of Maya. Gotta love this universe for beating us up this way.








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