Does it bother anyone else that the mime is talking?
On 11/17/2013 8:06 AM, emptyb...@yahoo.com wrote:
However, some cults are indeed far worse than other cults.
*From**Hitler’s Traitors**, by Susan Ottaway***
*(1) Adolf Hitler <http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/GERhitler.htm>
to Joachim von Ribbentrop
<http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/GERribbentrop.htm> (20th July,
I will crush and destroy the criminals who have dared to oppose
themselves to Providence and to me. These traitors to their own people
deserve ignominious death, and this is what they shall have. This time
the full price will be paid by all those who are involved, and by
their families, and by all those who have helped them. This nest of
vipers who have tried to sabotage the grandeur of my Germany will be
exterminated once and for all.
*(2) Speech by Adolf Hitler
<http://www.spartacus.schoolnet.co.uk/GERhitler.htm> on German radio
(21st July, 1944)*
To create order, I have appointed Himmler Commander of the Reserve
Army. I am convinced that with the disappearance of this very small
clique of traitors and conspirators we are finally creating in the
homeland the atmosphere which the fighters at the front need.
It is unthinkable that at the front, hundreds of thousands, no
millions, of good men should be giving their all while a small gang of
ambitious and miserable creatures here at home tries perpetually to
sabotage them. This time we are going to settle accounts with them in
the way we National Socialists are used to doing.
*(3) An eye-witness to the executions of some of the conspirators at
Ploetzwnsee Prison on 8th August, 1944 later described what he saw.*
Imagine a room with a low ceiling and whitewashed walls. Below the
ceiling a rail was fixed. From it hung six big hooks, like those
butchers use to hang their meat. In one corner stood a movie camera.
Reflectors cast a dazzling, blinding light. At the wall there was a
small table with a bottle of cognac and glasses for the witnesses of
the execution. The hangman wore a permanent leer, and made jokes
unceasingly. The camera worked uninterruptedly, for Hitler wanted to
see and hear how his enemies died. He had the executioner come to him,
and had personally arranged the details of the procedure. "I want them
to be hanged, hung up like carcasses of meat." Those were his words.
*(4) Samuel W. Mitcham, /Hitler's Field Marshals/ (1988) *
Field Marshal Witzleben freely admitted his part in the assassination
attempt. He and the others were found guilty the next day and
sentenced to hang that afternoon. Hitler had ordered that they be hung
like cattle. "I want to see them hanging like carcasses in a
slaughterhouse!" he commanded. The entire event was filmed by the
Reich Film Corporation. Witzleben was first. Despite his poor showing
at the trial, Witzleben met his death with courage and with as much
dignity as was possible under the circumstances. A thin wire noose was
placed around his neck, and the other end was secured to a meat hook.
The executioner and his assistant then picked up the
sixty-four-year-old soldier and dropped him so that his entire weight
fell on his neck. They then pulled off his trousers so that he hung
naked and twisted in agony as he slowly strangled. It took him almost
five minutes to die, but he never once cried out. The other seven
condemned men were executed in the same manner within an hour. They
were followed over the next eight months by hundreds of others.
---In email@example.com, <turquoiseb@...> wrote:
Since the place seems to have been flooded by another round of "My
cult was worse than your cult" ego-posturing, it seems appropriate to
repost a quote by another cult leader/spiritual teacher who was
prescient in his writing of it, foreshadowing how he himself came to
be regarded by many of his formerly adoring acolytes:
"Pedestals were invented by a very wise
man who perceived the need in human
consciousness to cast people down.
This wise man realized that it would be
impossible to cast people down unless
you had put them up on something first.
So he invented the pedestal, which is
now employed on a regular basis. You
put people on it so you can cast them
down later. Indeed, he was a wise man."
This quote really nails it, in my opinion. The angrier the former
cultists are at the person they had formerly placed up on a pedestal,
the angrier they are at *themselves* for being so stupid as to put
them up there in the first place. They're still smarting from shoving
that big pedestal up their *own* asses and walking around with it up
there for so long.
Haven't read Gail Treadwell's book, and doubt that I will, because I
have zero interest in Amma, and even less in her followers. The whole
"holy hug" thing has always creeped me out. But I hope that reports of
Gail's equanimity in the book are true, and that she managed to avoid
the "try to put all the blame on the teacher for my *own* stupidity"
trap that renders so many of these "cult exposes" unreadable. If she
pulled it off, more power to her, because I had to walk that fine line
myself, writing a book about a former cult leader, and trying (a la
the FFL Home Page) to "take what you can and leave the rest."
The problem is NOT the cult leaders. The problem is the cultists who
It really doesn't matter who the cult leader in question was --
someone as famous as Maharishi or Amma, or a total nobody such as
Robin Carlsen. They may *have* been as evil as their former
groupies/current detractors say they are, but it's the *groupies
themselves* that are the problem IMO. If they hadn't been so intent on
finding someone to idolize, place up on a pedestal of their own
making, and tell them how to lead their lives, they wouldn't have been
so pissed off when the pedestal came tumbling down on them.