--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "authfriend" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "jim_flanegin" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, "Brahman" 
> > > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > > jim flanegin wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > ...given Mother Divine as the Universal Supreme Being,
> > > > > all of these things are available to us at any time...
> > > > > 
> > > > > ...I don't participate in such ceremonies yet live
> > > > > a life of total support from Mother Divine...
> > > > 
> > > > while this is, no doubt, your true experience, still 
> > > > it is good to participate, also.  you may just need 
> > > > to learn more about it ... here is a neat website 
> > > > about MD and Navaratri:
> > > > 
> > > >      http://www.divyajivan.org/navaratri 
> > > > 
> > > > --
> > > 
> > > Thanks for the link. I enjoyed reading about the Goddesses. How 
> is 
> > > this different though from directly asking for blessings for 
> others 
> > > and myself at the appropriate time? Would those not also be 
> > > considered yagyas? It seems to work in the same way.
> > > 
> > > I am not negating these forms of worship, just adding that 
> whether 
> > > we want to contact Mother Divine directly or do it through 
> > > intermediaries, the results are similar.
> > 
> > Just out of curiosity, have you done both and
> > compared the effects?
> 
> I consistently exceed every expectation I have, have for my whole 
> life, so what would be the point of a yagya? For what- I don't have 
> any need strong enough for such a performance. Direct devotion is 
> better, and more powerful, in my opinion.
> 
> Perhaps if my life gets really, really, really, really intolerable 
> in the future I will have need of a yagya, but that is purely a 
> hypothetical instance. There appears to be a game we all play with 
> ourselves, comparing where we are or what we have, and where we want 
> to be. I have always been able to bridge such a gap through 
> dilligence, focus, devotion, and surrender.
> 
> Lately I have noticed that the equation has changed somewhat. The 
> gap described above is very brief on the one hand, and on the other, 
> the results realized always exceed my expectations.
> 
> So I have concluded from this that there is nothing for me to 
> do 'out there', such as a yagya, in order to achieve further 
> happiness, satisfaction, good health, economic security, social 
> integration, familial love, or any other aspect of my life which I 
> deem important.
> 
> For others it may be different. I have always enjoyed self-reliance. 
> I feel that for this life, and the next, it is better to be self-
> reliant.

Thats all fine. But you didn't answer the question. Not that you are
obligated to. You stated "I am not negating these forms of worship,
just adding that whether we want to contact Mother Divine directly or
do it through intermediaries, the results are similar." How can you
assess if the results are similar if you have not done the same yagyas
that Tom is doing. If on the other hand, you simple meant, "the
descriptions of yagyas sound similar to what I experience" then fine.
But thats a difference from saying the results ARE similar.





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