---In [email protected], <punditster@...> wrote:

 Maybe you are confusing a personality with practice. And, it may be that you 
never practiced TM - you were and still are practicing "Guru Yoga". In fact, 
MMY has nothing to do with your transcending, or not. 
 
 Complain; shift blame; be bitter.
 
 On 12/5/2013 10:48 PM, Michael Jackson wrote:
 
   
 I know that there is still the mind set that no matter what M may have done 
that wasn't ethical, the effect of TM and TMSP is so good and so powerful, it 
is best to ignore or rationalize that the negative or dark side of M and the 
Movement is outweighed by the vast positive benefit to the individual and the 
world.
 
 I know there is that mind set but I don't agree with it. I do not see any 
evidence the group practice of TMSP is having any kind of effect of offsetting 
the "negative" energy around the world. If you take the current state of the 
world as evidence of Marshy effect then it is clear the Marshy Effect is either 
non-existent or a colossal failure. 
 
 I have come to feel that TM itself seems to work well for a couple years and 
then for some reason the positive benefits seem to fade away. I mean even old 
timers like Rick don't just strictly do TM - they do other stuff. If TM is so 
fabulous, people would not step away from it.
 
 There have been too many suicides, too many mental breakdowns and too many 
high ups in the Movement whose behavior is the opposite of what you would 
expect from folks practicing daily the royal technique for enlightenment. That 
last is of great importance to me. I don't feel you can make the grandiose 
claims for a mental technique and have the actual results be totally off base 
or totally different than what is promised and still legitimately believe the 
technique will do what is claimed for it.
 
 When the people who have been doing TMSP the longest behave in the arrogant, 
elitist, unethical manner I have seen in people like Hagelin, Morris, Greg 
Wilson, Susan Humphries, Chris Crowell, Neal Patterson, Bill Sands, Reed Martin 
and so on and so forth I see that the TMSP has had the OPPOSITE effect on their 
behavior that it should have had. 
 
 So while I admire your desire to change the world, it won't change through 
folks doing TM and TMSP - if it was going to do so, it would already have done 
it. 
 
 The state to the world today is a testament to Marshy's monumental failure to 
make significant changes in world consciousness through his programs. Of 
course, I believe his real program was to make himself into a demigod in 
people's minds, make tons of money for himself and his family and get laid a 
whole bunch while he was still young enough to enjoy it, so he actually did 
have the effect he wanted to have, it just wasn't the effect he promoted in 
public.
 
 
 
 
 I think one can only be so disappointed in a result or outcome of something if 
one has put one's full belief in it. I just never totally "fell" for or 
believed all of the things that the Movement and MMY promised. The ME, the 
flying all of that I took with a shaker of salt because I know that life rarely 
delivers, in full, what is promised by human beings. I am not an idealist and I 
never have been - so far. Idealists are those who are in danger of falling the 
hardest when circumstances don't pan out as promised. There is nothing wrong 
with being an idealist but there are probably more bitter and cynical idealists 
out there than there are bitter, cynical skeptics.


 

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