Everyone knows that the culprits in this rumor-mongering are Rick, Judy, Joe, and Vaj and now the poser, MJ. Based on what I've read, there's no basis for their accusations. It's interesting to read Gail's book which is supported by that Gena character. In my opinion, it's mostly about eating sour grapes, except in Judy's case, she is probably just projecting her own sexual insecurities. But, so be it for me to be the only defender of MMY on this list - the rest of the ankle-biters around here can go to hell as far as I'm concerned.

On 12/11/2013 7:10 AM, Share Long wrote:
Buck I agree that Richard's was judicious writing on a tough subject. Thanks to both you guys...

On Tuesday, December 10, 2013 10:10 PM, Richard J. Williams <pundits...@gmail.com> wrote: By now I think we know who the real ankle-biters on FFL are: one is the owner, one is the editor, and the other two have left the group for their own reasons.

We will probably never know for sure what happened between the participants because MMY is gone, and he can't be cross-examined. I think it was very unfair that Judith waited until after MMY passed to make her claims - that way she could not be be contradicted.

There are a few still left here who would take any opportunity to denigrate our teacher and try to confuse us as to the truth about our spiritual path and MMY's teachings. One is a long-time informant who persists in her insidious and false claims on this and other subjects. Go figure.

On 12/10/2013 9:42 PM, dhamiltony...@yahoo.com <mailto:dhamiltony...@yahoo.com> wrote:
*RJ, This is good judicious writing about a tough subject. Thanks for the short take on this circumstance with Maharishi. I sense a lot of people now look back on it this way too. I feel he did some pretty large great things with lasting affect and may have blown the potential of it all also with this too. Evidently he was also a high risk kind of guy and very human. Some of the real hurt neganauts will proly never forgive or forget by nature. Different people filter and deal with dissonance differently. Seems that what you write here is fair reconciliation of a middle ground between complete deniers on the one hand and complete haters on the other. Thanks, I appreciate the writing attempt at some rationale in between. *
*-Buck *

---In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com <mailto:FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com>, <punditster@...> <mailto:punditster@...> wrote:

So, what would MMY's sexual activty, or lack of it, have to do with your
spiritual progress on the path to being a siddha? Go figure.

So far as I can tell, there is not one single shred of evidence that MMY
engaged in any improper sexual activities relating to his relations with
his students. But, even assuming that MMY did engage in acts of a
private, sexual nature, why do you suppose some ankle-biters would want
to dwell on the unsubstantiated rumors contained in a paperback book? It
just doesn't make any sense.

It is interesting that, in contrast to the confessions of Judith
Bourque, another previous MMY secretary, Conny Larsson, writes nothing
about any observed personal sexual activities pertaining to MMY. Judith
was a TM meditator who was initated in Sweden alomg with Conny Larsson.
Her experiences with the TM technique inspired her to enroll in the
Maharishi's teacher training course at his academy in India. So, in
Judith travelled to India to study under the Maharishi and to become a
TM Teacher - this was at the 1968 Rishikesh TTC.

According to Bourque, she became more than just a student at the academy
- she became the Maharishi's private secretary and more. In fact, Judith
says she fell in love with the Maharishi! At the completion of the
course Judith was appointed to be the Maharishi's "private secretary",
although Judith had exactly zero experience or training to do
secretarial work having no training higher than that of a clerk, if
that. Go figure.

So, Bourque spent two years working for the MMY, first at the TTC in
Rishikesh in 1968, and later in Switzerland, until TTC 1970. According
to Bourque, she had sexual relations with the him, on numerous occasions
during that time.

Apparently she was infatuated with MMY. As part of her compensation MMY
bought her a few saris and some jewelry to wear in order to cover up her
nakedness. She was one of the Maharishi's 'inner circle', which included
Jerry Jarvis and Ms. Jemima Pittman. This was after the Beatles and
after the formation of SIMS.

But, the real question is: Is there anything wrong with getting naked
and having "naked sex" on a bear-skin rug? Why not just be open about it
and tell everyone you want to screw the guru so you can get closer to
him than anyone else - get some power so you can boss people around?

Work cited:

'Robes of Silk Feet of Clay'
By Judith Bourque
p. 34

Ned to Casey:

Other titles of interest:

'God's Little Clown'
By Conny Larsson

    On 12/9/2013 10:44 PM, Michael Jackson wrote:
    > The next biggest favor I ever got was when Rick shared here on
    FFL and
    > with me in a couple messages he reasons for believing Marshy was a
> sexual active person

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