--- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
wrote:
> --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, TurquoiseB <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> wrote:
> > --- In FairfieldLife@yahoogroups.com, cardemaister 
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
> > wrote:
> > > [Sorry, Buddhists!]
> > > 
> > > [The Devas to Shiva:] "In days of yore, it was to
> > > favour us that Lord Vishnu incarnated Himself as
> > > the Buddha and diverted unrighteous men from
> > > contaminating the Vedic path, by preaching a new
> > > religion for them. But today the country is filled
> > > with the heterodox followers of that religion, as
> > > night is by darkness. They are indulging in carping
> > > criticism of the Veda, declaring it to be just a 
> > > fraudulent means of livelihood for a few, and 
> > > condemning its teachings on the duties of Varnas
> > > and Ashramas as mere superstitions. As people have
> > > given up the orthodox Vedic path and become heretics,
> > > there is none to do the daily devotional acts like
> > > Sandhya, or to take to the life of renunciation."
> > > 
> > > -- Madhava-Vidyaranya [maadhava-vidyaaraNya],
> > >    Shankara-dig-vijaya. The traditional life
> > >    of Sri Sankaracharya [shrii shankaraacaarya]
> > 
> > This kind of sniping always fascinates me.  It's
> > especially fascinating in the case of the Hindu-
> > Buddhist sniping.  NO ONE could have been clearer
> > in life about rejecting the Hindu system than the
> > original Buddha.  He also rejected to some extent
> > the notion of avatars.  So what does Hinduism do
> > the minute the guy dies and is safely out of the
> > way, unable to contradict them in person?  They
> > declare him an avatar of Vishnu, and claim that
> > he was really teaching a variant of Hinduism.
> > 
> > Orthodoxy is its own Hell.  I think it's a suburb
> > of the Hell Of Self Importance.
> > 
> > It's also fascinating in terms of the theories
> > proposed by Lama Ole in a short rap posted here
> > recently.  I mean, this quote is attributed to
> > *devas*, ferchissakes.  So either the priests
> > are making this jealous sniping up and attrib-
> > uting it to deities, or the deities themselves
> > really *are* so insecure and stuck in the astral 
> > plane that they really *are* jealous of some human
> > being who's getting more press than they are.
> > 
> > And isn't it *really* fascinating that the thing
> > that the priests who wrote this are most uptight
> > about is the claim that selling the Veda is just
> > a "fraudulent means of livelihood for a few?"
> > Sound familiar?  Maybe the TMers who have "lost
> > faith" in the TMO for similar reasons are really
> > "unrighteous men contaminating the Vedic path,"
> > and the righteous are better off without them.
> > 
> > Then again, maybe the "unrighteous" are waking up 
> > from a bad dream in which their own holy men were 
> > demanding money all the time, as the only approp-
> > riate method of proving their faith, and the 
> > money-grubbers would prefer that the flock stays
> > safely -- and profitably -- asleep.
> 
> That rap of the Devas goes on for a couple of 
> sentences, then sez Shiva:
> "Taking a human body, I shall secure what is good
> for you. I shall establish the Dharma, conquering 
> all the leaders of the perverse paths. I shall produce
> a commentary on the Brahma Sutras, setting forth the
> true teachings of the Vedas. I shall do this, taking
> the form of a great Sannyasin, S[h]ankara by name,
> accompanied by four disciples who would be like the 
> luminous sun dispelling the darkness of ignorance
> conjured up by the acceptance of duality. Just like
> Mahavishnu [Buddha?], I shall embody myself on earth.
> All of you, Devas residing in Swarga, should also 
> take birth on earth like Myself and assist Me in My
> mission. Thus shall your prayer be fulfilled."

Looks like "my dharma is better than your dharma"
is far from a new idea.






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