--- In [email protected],  wrote:
>
> Re "The Bechdel Test. To pass a film must:
> 1. Have at least two women -- with names -- in it
>  2. Who talk to each other
>  3. About something besides a man":
>
>  What's the point of the Bechdel Test?  Some films - war movies?
prison movies? - may work best *without* any women. It's a man's world
out there.

The point is that in the past very few movies -- of any kind -- *could*
pass this test. It's a test for unrecognized sexism in film. From
Wikipedia: "Only a small proportion of films pass the Bechdel test,
according to writer Charles Stross
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Stross> 
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bechdel_test#cite_note-Power_2009-19>  and
film director Jason Reitman <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jason_Reitman>
. <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bechdel_test#cite_note-20>  According to
Mark Harris <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Harris_%28journalist%29> 
of Entertainment Weekly
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Entertainment_Weekly> , if passing the
test were mandatory, it would have jeopardized half of 2009's Academy
Award for Best Picture
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Academy_Award_for_Best_Picture> 
nominees."
 
<http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bechdel_test#cite_note-EW_6_August_2010-17\
>
>  The Disney "20,000 Leagues under the Sea" was an all-male,
claustrophobic classic - the first "steampunk" movie. The 1997 TV movie
version introduced a woman. Now the problem with introducing a woman is
that it changes the dynamic of the set-up. A central aspect then
becomes: "OK, who's going to end up bedding the girl?". That distraction
then diffuses the tension of the major plot theme.

That strikes me as a rather sexist statement in itself. Are you actually
saying that the only purpose a woman could serve on a submarine is to be
fucked by the male crew members?



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